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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 02:12 PM
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I just got the car yesterday 2001 SS with a newly installed 77K shortblock from an 01 ws6. I was on the highway going 75-80mph and the check gauges light came on and I looked down to see 0 oil pressure. Immedietly pulled over and got it towed home. I checked the oil, no leakes or anything but it almost looks like silver glitter on the dipstick, I am almost 100% the oil pump is dead but would the motor be ok without pulling it? Also if it is dead would yall recomend claiming it on insurence and using the money to get a forged 346 or nonforged 383?
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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Did you blow your old motor is why you got a used shortblock? If so insurance won't pay for that. As far as the metal shavings i'd be afraid that all those shavings are all over the motor and you may make some bearings go bad.
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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the previous owner threw a rod last week and got this one installed a few days before I picked it up. Is there anyway the insurance would know about the short block since its the same year model and it wasnt claimed?
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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i believe insurance only covers comprehensive damage.... i.e. wreck, hydrolock from rainy weather, etc...

I doubt they cover blown engines... that's where a warranty would come into play...
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Old Oct 29, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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I'd be contacting the shop that installed the shortblock there should be a limited warranty on it. But yeah insurance won't cover wear/tear.
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 07:39 AM
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It spun a ******* bearing
does any one know roughly how much it would cost for parts?
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 08:19 AM
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Being a licensed insurance agent, this is a common question.

Mechanical Failure is NOT a covered peril, a Peril is what causes the damage. I.E. Theft is a covered peril because some ******* stole the car and it wasnt recovered
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 09:44 AM
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damn dude you can't catch a break for **** it seams!
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by streetassasin
It spun a ******* bearing
does any one know roughly how much it would cost for parts?
DRive it threw some water, so can claim hydrolock......sorrry hear that tho man.
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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The shop that instaled it has no liability unless the problem was caused by something they did wrong while installing it. BUT...If the used engine came from a salvage yard it should have a warranty for at least 30 days.

Find out where they got the motor and if it was gaurented.

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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 10:13 AM
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This is why I don't like to buy used engine parts or engines. We all want to save money, but its very risky when buying used parts.
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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Its ok to buy used but since the motor was on the stand, id inspect, and replace whats needed, plus put some ARP rod bolts in it.
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by streetassasin
It spun a ******* bearing
does any one know roughly how much it would cost for parts?

You didnt spin a bearing the engine had previous damage. You got ripped unless you were thrashing the ever loving crap out of it, only you know that, you need to make the person who you bought it from pay for it.

As far as fixing it it isn't worht it. A forged 347 will be cheaper than a 383.
Start calling vendors on the right. LME has a good reputation, built mine and a few people's I know, Weber has some great deals as well as a bunch of others. Your looking at anywhere from 2790-3500 for a forged 347 sb. Add about 800-1100- if you go 383, the cost of the crank. Then add in gaskets, new timing set, new oil pump, and a few other odds and ends like lifters and lifter trays.
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 11:12 AM
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you have had the car less than 24 hours and its already Fed up? uhm, id be giving that car back to whoever you bought it from and letting them take care of it...thats BS..
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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you have had the car less than 24 hours and its already Fed up? uhm, id be giving that car back to whoever you bought it from and letting them take care of it...thats BS..
Sold as is most times, depends on what was on the contract. I always do stuff in writing.
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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I drove the car back from dallas the day I got it around 340-350miles, drove to work and back 5miles round trip, went out to the back 10miles r so and on the way back is when it went, never had it over 5k rpm
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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You need to speak with the seller and get some coin back from him. Small claims court might be in your future if he doesnt want to cooperate. He deals with the place where he got the motor from not you. 2- 3k is reasonable for him to refund you. You can have a sb built for 3500 from LME cheaper from other vendors.

There isnt a court in the world that will let the sale stand unless the sales slip says with blown engine on it. It is assumed it will last longer than 500 miles. I dont care how big AS IS is printed. This isnt criminal law and you dont need to prove guilt. You just need to show that is was not supposed to be a junk and was bought as such with the intent of having a good motor. Most people think they can wrap a turn in paper and sell it as a golden egg and get away with it if they say "as is". Thats not how it works. You can take them to small claims court get a few bucks back from them. Especialy within 3 days of a sale. There are laws that protect buyers especialy with big purchases.

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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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Dude you are screwed on recouping any money from anyone unless there was a written warranty or something of that nature.

Id look into geting a forged shortblock now.
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by streetassasin
I drove the car back from dallas the day I got it around 340-350miles, drove to work and back 5miles round trip, went out to the back 10miles r so and on the way back is when it went, never had it over 5k rpm
Either hydro lock the motor and try insurance, or go to the seller and get some money from him
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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BTW sorry to hear about that i hope you get it resolved with no money out of pocket
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