How's This Cam
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How's This Cam What do you guys think about this cam: Comp 244/248 613/615 110 lsa. Will this be a streetable cam and would I need to flycut? Also how much power would it make?
Cam Very similar to my trex 244/250 .614/.618 110 lsa. I love it. Not for everyone though. Streetable...yes for me. A lot will say no. Gears are a must. I run 4.30's in a 9 inch. I didn't need to flycut.
If this is your first LS1 and your 1st cam swap, I would recommend going smaller. That cam would be considered very advanced from an install standpoint (it will BARELY fit and it must be checked) and from a tuning standpoint.
I'd recommend a 230/230 .612/604" 110LSA +2 cam instead.
I'd recommend a 230/230 .612/604" 110LSA +2 cam instead.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
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If this is your first LS1 and your 1st cam swap, I would recommend going smaller. That cam would be considered very advanced from an install standpoint (it will BARELY fit and it must be checked) and from a tuning standpoint.
I'd recommend a 230/230 .612/604" 110LSA +2 cam instead.
I'd recommend a 230/230 .612/604" 110LSA +2 cam instead.
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I have both the MS3 and MS4, again it is not the best for the street but it is all in your tune, the MS3 will clear easy with no flycutting but if you get the MS4 on a 110LSA, it will clear but I highly recommend flycutting.
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Did you flycut with your MS4? Do you have any numbers or times with the cam only?
I didn't have to flycut because I am running a fully forged 346 with -4cc dished pistons, I never got any numbers cam only, I installed alot of go fast parts at the same time. My other WS6 I installed the MS3 on a 113lsa with full bolt-ons and a 3400 stall and it put down just over 420HP.
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So the MS4 would probably make a little more than that. Thanks for your input. Anyone out there running the cam (or one close to it) in the first post, I'd like to hear from you.
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Throw it in, go for it, it's as big as you can fit under stock heads. If something is slightly off and the valves kiss the pistons, hopefully you'll just bend a couple valves and you have an excuse to throw some heads it. If you're looking at those cams, you don't care about streetable anyway. You'll want a taller gear though, since the cams you're looking at are top end cams... of course the taller gear will have thinner teeth, so the rear will be a bit weaker, start saving for that. Are you going to change out your weak 98 rod bolts and go with a ported LS6 pump? Just asking because those cams you're looking at make their best times/power under the curve when you shift around 7000-7200, and with the slightly weaker 98 oiling and the weaker 98 rod bolts, you're asking for a spun bearing living up in those RPM's. But at least then you have an excuse for a forged shortblock or hell, even drop 6+ large for a nice 400+ cubic inch shortblock, killer heads, and a bigger cam! 
Let us know how it goes!
Let us know how it goes!
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Yeah I would definately be upgrading the oil pump. So does anyone know for sure if I would need to flycut or not, because that is the big deciding factor. I don't want to do it.
LMAO!! You been given great advise from one of the cam guru's on this site but yet you choose to ignore it.
GO ahead shove that big boy in there and watch your car get slower!! That ******* thing is not a street cam at all by any means. Even with gears it's not a street cam.
Your not going to be impressed as you wont have any torque or power down low at all. NONE ZIP ZILCH. If that's what you want then go for it. You think PatrickG was blowing smoke out his ***? I'm a little more direct and obviously less polite. I've gone through 3 cams and heads. I'd say shove a tr224 in there and call it a day. Best street cam on the planet.
You have a stock short block right? Plan on doing rod bolts? You'll need them because you need to go to 6800 rpms to get the power out of that cam. I run a 238/240 now and unless I had a light drag queen I will not go bigger. I had it specificaly designed for the rpm range that I want to play in 4500-7200- rpms. You've got stock 98 heads. You need to take that into consideration as well but it seems all you want is the biggest you can find and dont care about performance.
Do what you want its your car but when an expert tells you something an you ignore him, your going down a path you dont want to be on.
GO ahead shove that big boy in there and watch your car get slower!! That ******* thing is not a street cam at all by any means. Even with gears it's not a street cam.
Your not going to be impressed as you wont have any torque or power down low at all. NONE ZIP ZILCH. If that's what you want then go for it. You think PatrickG was blowing smoke out his ***? I'm a little more direct and obviously less polite. I've gone through 3 cams and heads. I'd say shove a tr224 in there and call it a day. Best street cam on the planet.
You have a stock short block right? Plan on doing rod bolts? You'll need them because you need to go to 6800 rpms to get the power out of that cam. I run a 238/240 now and unless I had a light drag queen I will not go bigger. I had it specificaly designed for the rpm range that I want to play in 4500-7200- rpms. You've got stock 98 heads. You need to take that into consideration as well but it seems all you want is the biggest you can find and dont care about performance.
Do what you want its your car but when an expert tells you something an you ignore him, your going down a path you dont want to be on.
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LMAO!! You been given great advise from one of the cam guru's on this site but yet you choose to ignore it.
GO ahead shove that big boy in there and watch your car get slower!! That ******* thing is not a street cam at all by any means. Even with gears it's not a street cam.
Your not going to be impressed as you wont have any torque or power down low at all. NONE ZIP ZILCH. If that's what you want then go for it. You think PatrickG was blowing smoke out his ***? I'm a little more direct and obviously less polite. I've gone through 3 cams and heads. I'd say shove a tr224 in there and call it a day. Best street cam on the planet.
You have a stock short block right? Plan on doing rod bolts? You'll need them because you need to go to 6800 rpms to get the power out of that cam. I run a 238/240 now and unless I had a light drag queen I will not go bigger. I had it specificaly designed for the rpm range that I want to play in 4500-7200- rpms. You've got stock 98 heads. You need to take that into consideration as well but it seems all you want is the biggest you can find and dont care about performance.
Do what you want its your car but when an expert tells you something an you ignore him, your going down a path you dont want to be on.
GO ahead shove that big boy in there and watch your car get slower!! That ******* thing is not a street cam at all by any means. Even with gears it's not a street cam.
Your not going to be impressed as you wont have any torque or power down low at all. NONE ZIP ZILCH. If that's what you want then go for it. You think PatrickG was blowing smoke out his ***? I'm a little more direct and obviously less polite. I've gone through 3 cams and heads. I'd say shove a tr224 in there and call it a day. Best street cam on the planet.
You have a stock short block right? Plan on doing rod bolts? You'll need them because you need to go to 6800 rpms to get the power out of that cam. I run a 238/240 now and unless I had a light drag queen I will not go bigger. I had it specificaly designed for the rpm range that I want to play in 4500-7200- rpms. You've got stock 98 heads. You need to take that into consideration as well but it seems all you want is the biggest you can find and dont care about performance.
Do what you want its your car but when an expert tells you something an you ignore him, your going down a path you dont want to be on.
LMAO!! You been given great advise from one of the cam guru's on this site but yet you choose to ignore it.
GO ahead shove that big boy in there and watch your car get slower!! That ******* thing is not a street cam at all by any means. Even with gears it's not a street cam.
Your not going to be impressed as you wont have any torque or power down low at all. NONE ZIP ZILCH. If that's what you want then go for it. You think PatrickG was blowing smoke out his ***? I'm a little more direct and obviously less polite. I've gone through 3 cams and heads. I'd say shove a tr224 in there and call it a day. Best street cam on the planet.
You have a stock short block right? Plan on doing rod bolts? You'll need them because you need to go to 6800 rpms to get the power out of that cam. I run a 238/240 now and unless I had a light drag queen I will not go bigger. I had it specificaly designed for the rpm range that I want to play in 4500-7200- rpms. You've got stock 98 heads. You need to take that into consideration as well but it seems all you want is the biggest you can find and dont care about performance.
Do what you want its your car but when an expert tells you something an you ignore him, your going down a path you dont want to be on.
GO ahead shove that big boy in there and watch your car get slower!! That ******* thing is not a street cam at all by any means. Even with gears it's not a street cam.
Your not going to be impressed as you wont have any torque or power down low at all. NONE ZIP ZILCH. If that's what you want then go for it. You think PatrickG was blowing smoke out his ***? I'm a little more direct and obviously less polite. I've gone through 3 cams and heads. I'd say shove a tr224 in there and call it a day. Best street cam on the planet.
You have a stock short block right? Plan on doing rod bolts? You'll need them because you need to go to 6800 rpms to get the power out of that cam. I run a 238/240 now and unless I had a light drag queen I will not go bigger. I had it specificaly designed for the rpm range that I want to play in 4500-7200- rpms. You've got stock 98 heads. You need to take that into consideration as well but it seems all you want is the biggest you can find and dont care about performance.
Do what you want its your car but when an expert tells you something an you ignore him, your going down a path you dont want to be on.
I have a pretty decent sized cam in my car and it does not lack in any way shape or form. Maybe you dont know how to drive very well. I dont know why you think that you need to come in here with your attitude, but he is asking questions to see what he wants to do, leave it up to him to go through the info that people give him and make his decision off of that. If you dont like it dont post.
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I have a pretty decent sized cam in my car and it does not lack in any way shape or form. Maybe you dont know how to drive very well. I dont know why you think that you need to come in here with your attitude, but he is asking questions to see what he wants to do, leave it up to him to go through the info that people give him and make his decision off of that. If you dont like it dont post.
It is definetly a street car, I am having some issues with my tune so it is a little harder to drive and it only put down 416. I am expecting at least 425 or 430 after everything is worked out. Everyone scared me when they said these cams have no low end, but when I got my car back from the shop and laid into it I was very surprised. It moves. Although I do agree with Patrick G you might want a smaller cam simply because the bigger cams want more RPM, and your stock bottom end may not like it. Who knows though people run these cams succesfully on stock motors all the time. Long story short I love it.
