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Old 11-18-2007, 10:43 AM
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I have a 99 trans am m6 and it has all the free mods done plus borla cat back exhaust and slp lid. I recently just tuned it up and it still dont run like i think it should. when im in first gear at a roll i can punch it and it just squats and goes it dont even turn the tires. The car runs very smooth and doesnt burn a drop of oil but what is wrong why dont it even turn the tires loose unless i dump the clutch? Itll smokem all day like that but it should at a roll as well. plus when i am racing it and revving it to red line the clutch loses pressure and it dont wanna go into the next gear. Can anybody help me out and tell me what i can do or what is causing these problems? I have pulleys, slp long tube headers, off road pipe and y-pipe, denso plugs, msd wires, a tuner, and 4:10 gears that im gonna be adding to my car shortly so hopefully that will help it out a little bit. but i would like to atleast have a halfway decent running car if im putting all this money into it. Please help!! thanks
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How many miles on the car? No they just dont smoke the tires all the time from a stand still or a roll. I have a 99. If you think your low on power do a compression check first of all.
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it has 136k but i did a compression check and they all were fine. I ran some lucas injector cleaner threw it thinking maybe that would help but it didnt. The car does rock back super hard when i floor it but i figured it would cut the tires loose. They are only 245-50-16 HR II's so its not like im running street slicks on it. I dont know if this has anything to do with it but it does have the sway bar romoved and subframe conectors on it. Should i maybe try running a can of restore threw it?
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My SS was the same way before I put LT's and ORY on it. Now it will break them loose like nothing. Before it wouldn't spin at all for some reason. I was guessing it was the tires being basically new and 17's. My old 99 Z28 would roast them from a slow roll in 1st and it was stock. It was also on 16's though. Get the car to a track and see what it does.
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what rpms were you running when you punched it?if you were in the lower range,it won't spin the tires..
it's not like an auto with a stall,my old Z would fry the tires by just punching it,but that was due to the converter..
if it pulls hard otherwise,then i don't think you have a problem..
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Cant hurt I guess. My guess is there is some residue buildup. Try sea foaming it. also just the outside weather will have an effect. Air qaulity changes with the seasons and it really has a great effect on power.
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I thought about the sea foam but what should i mix with it to condition the seals? I have heard alot of horror storys about it but i have never tried it. I was about 2500 rpms when i punched it. It seems like other then not wanting to turn the tires over its pretty quick. I will give sea foam a shot. what do you guys think is up with my clutch though? I cant really run it threw the gears to see what its gonna do until i get that problem fixed.
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Its hydraulic. Could be the fluid is low or when was the last time it was replaced? I dont think the fluid is bad but maybe? if its the original stuff? Could be on the way out, they dont always have to slip a lot before they go. I'd look into the hydro part of it first though. There was or is a drill mod to one of the lines, look in the stickies in the clutch section.
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Well at my shop I just had a 1996 Formula Completely stock with 15K miles on it that is for sale and it would spin in first without even thinking twice about it. God forbid you gave it 1/2 throttle coming out of a turn.
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Total different motor. My friends 96 seemed to have more torque down low than me but didnt have the top end.
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Originally Posted by RedRocketZ28
My SS was the same way before I put LT's and ORY on it. Now it will break them loose like nothing. Before it wouldn't spin at all for some reason. I was guessing it was the tires being basically new and 17's. My old 99 Z28 would roast them from a slow roll in 1st and it was stock. It was also on 16's though. Get the car to a track and see what it does.
Same thing with my car. 275/40/17 Fuzions wouldn't break 'em loose from a roll if my life depended on it. LT's went in and i had to order DR's that week . I wouldn't be so concerned with getting the tires to spin, it's better if they don't.
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put the sway bar back on for the street. lt1's have lower tourque but ls1's have more mid and high end power
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My last car was a 465rwhp 422rwtq Z06 with 305 nittos and it wouldnt always spin the drs. the ls1s dont make a whole lot of low end torque. The engine in my pontiac has sat for 20+ years but will still break loose in 3rd gear (th400). Its all about torque. Its much easier to launch a car with less low end torque. I used to have a 95 formula and even when my z06 was stock i know there was a noticable differnce from my auto 95 than my manual 01 z06. My 95 would break loose 315 in 1st no problem with just bolt ons. I have an 01 duramax with over 700ftlb torque and it doesnt even spin the tires unless towing some trailers. Too many factors involved.




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