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Old 11-20-2007, 06:50 PM
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hey guys first let me say i have done alot of searching before i posted this. so what im lookin for is, i got all bolt ons and a 3.73 gear, i dont want to change my heads for the reason of i plan on going with a whole new motor next winter. i want to know what is the best cam to use on stock heads i have an 02 z28. ive been looking at comp cam 232/234 595/598 112lsa, but im not sure if that is over kill for the heads. i dont drive the car everyday so drive ability is not a huge deal to me. i just want the best cam for stock heads and all bolt ons. also my car is an a4, i plan on getting yank tc too once i figure out what came to go with. my goal is to go somewhere in the 11's with stock heads cam only. thanks guys!
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also im not running a fast 90/90 setup. im sure im gonna need a new trans too once the cam goes in, but ill deal with that when the times come. thanks again everyone.
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I would stay in the mid 220s @.50.

A 224 cam from any of the vendors will do nicely.
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224/228 .581/.588 112 Lsa
Old 11-21-2007, 12:54 AM
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sspddmon i was actually looking at that cam as well. u think that will get me in the 11's?
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hey SSpdDmon comp makes that cam but its on a 114lsa, who makes it with a 112lsa, im sure i can have comp make a custom one, but would the advantage be going from a 114lsa to a 112lsa?
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comp cam specs are 224/230 581/588 114lsa xe-r lobe style
Old 11-21-2007, 01:37 AM
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I have a 231/237 .589 .595 112lsa with stock heads, LS6 intake, Ported tb, 3800vig stall. Made 380whp through an A4. Car is a totally different beast now. Well....maybe not a beast compared to what a lot of people on this site have, but good enough for me.....for now
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I'm happy with my 232/234 ... 410hp on stock heads and no pulley on an M6
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the trex is great for stock heads, but it is huge. i went 12.05 with a 1.8 6oft the car still had the crappy ls1 intake.
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comp can grind that cam on a 112 all ya have to do is call em n tell em, they do custom grinds too , they spec'd me out a 232 238 595 605 112 + 4 for my setup and im going to be using 1.75 rockers so it will me like 15 lift higher on each side.
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Originally Posted by rjkZ28
sspddmon i was actually looking at that cam as well. u think that will get me in the 11's?
Depends on how heavy the car is and what supporting bolt-ons you have. There are lots of people that get that cam into the 400rwhp range, but there are just as many who fall short. Going back to '04 in a quick search...there were people running 11.8's @ 113 on the 224/228 cam in an A4. So, I don't doubt it can be done. It just needs to be done right to make it happen.

The difference I tend to see between this cam and something bigger is the power under the curve is better on the 22x duration cams. Something in the 23x's will require you to spin the motor a little higher to get to the sweet spot.
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TR230/224 reverse split on stock heads...

makes GREAT power all over.
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thanks guys for all ur input. so my mods are as folllow, lt headers, td exhaust, ud pulley, slp lid, stock ls6 intake, stock tb, trans go shift w/ b&m deep pan, 3.73 gear. the car went 12.8 @ 108mph with a 1.93 60ft this past summer with out the lt headers and td exhaust. i would say thats pretty damn good for an a4 car. the car is also stock weight t-top car. now im confused some people are saying they a cam with 230+ and some are saying stay with a 220+ cam, i dont know what i wanna do now lol. thanks again everyone. the more input the better!
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Originally Posted by rjkZ28
thanks guys for all ur input. so my mods are as folllow, lt headers, td exhaust, ud pulley, slp lid, stock ls6 intake, stock tb, trans go shift w/ b&m deep pan, 3.73 gear. the car went 12.8 @ 108mph with a 1.93 60ft this past summer with out the lt headers and td exhaust. i would say thats pretty damn good for an a4 car. the car is also stock weight t-top car. now im confused some people are saying they a cam with 230+ and some are saying stay with a 220+ cam, i dont know what i wanna do now lol. thanks again everyone. the more input the better!
Either way you go, you're going to need a good stall too. So, $tart $aving.
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224/224 or 228R will do you just right ...
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sorry if i missed it but you need better / upgraded springs on your stock heads. how high rpms are you planning to rev.?
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Here is the kicker with the 230+ cams and an automatic: the RPM's eventually hurt the trans without some updated hard parts. Most of the cams listed are going to peak in the 6200-6500 range, and best shift points will be higher than the peak. By going that big, you trade off torque from the bottom end. If all you want to do is drag race, thats fine. But if you want a dual purpose street car, the 224 cam is going to make a lot more low-end torque, and be more drivable.

It will be a little tougher to get it in the 11's with less cam, but it will run better anytime you're not at the track. Besides, if you're saving for a whole different motor next year, what's a few tenths?
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I ran a 225/225 .581/.581 112 cam in my previous a4 car. I also had a 3500 stall, longtubes, ory, Hooker catback, lid, and pulley, but I DIDN'T have a ported TB or cutout.

The car went 12.0 with a 1.84 60ft on street tires, and then in POOR weather, it went high 11s with a decent tire.

I have a bit larger cam in my m6 228/230, and it drives nice as well. I would suggest you go larger than I did with my a4, I know I wanted more cam and verter VERY soon after getting used to the new power.

I wouldnt go with anything smaller than what I have now. I like the idea of the 232/234 cam you mentioned in the beginning.

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