is this normal pics inside
12-07-2007, 04:00 PM
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is this normal pics inside i baught new crane dual springs, seats, retainers, and intake and exhaust seals. well i installed them today and when i was done the retainers dont sit exactly in the middle of the springs is this normal? i made sure i had the right everything i asked a sponsor before i got everything.
12-07-2007, 04:04 PM
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That doesn't look right to me.
In pic #1, the first spring looks like if it moves slightly to the right and up the retainer will fall under the first coil of the spring.
In pic #1, the first spring looks like if it moves slightly to the right and up the retainer will fall under the first coil of the spring.
12-07-2007, 04:15 PM
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it cant fall off it just wont fit even if it moves over, i didint think it looked right to me but this is my first spring install this is what i have
1. crane dual springs 144832-16
2. crane locators #144460-16
3. crane retainers #144944-16
4. gm intake valve seals #12457652
5. gm exhaust valve seals #12533856
1. crane dual springs 144832-16
2. crane locators #144460-16
3. crane retainers #144944-16
4. gm intake valve seals #12457652
5. gm exhaust valve seals #12533856
Last edited by therobman; 12-07-2007 at 04:20 PM.
12-07-2007, 04:47 PM
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thats what i think but i double checked the boxes and got all the right parts that the crane sponsors only thing is i baught these springs from a member who said they had 500 miles on them and said they were crane dual springs 144832-16 which is the right ones
Last edited by therobman; 12-07-2007 at 04:55 PM.
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12-07-2007, 05:07 PM
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Either the springs are wrong or the retainers are wrong. They may have the the correct part number on the box, but that doesn't mean they put the correct part in there. To me, it looks like the springs are ok, but the retainers are to small. You should measure the OD of both and find out which one is incorrect. The springs should be 1.275", if they are bigger than that, they aren't 832's.
12-08-2007, 10:24 PM
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JPH- How can you possibly tell that they aren't Crane springs by the pics given? Their is only a couple different manufacturers that make springs for all the different companies out there. I forget offhand who makes them for Crane but for example the Patriot Gold, AFR, PRC & Manley duals are all made by the same company. The difference being in their finish treatment & seat and retainer package. Not trying to knock you but just curious what you are seeing that I'm not.
12-08-2007, 11:26 PM
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They definatley look like beehive retainers for the Comp 918's to me. Along with straight up dual springs. I personaly wouldn't run them like that. That retainer should cover the outer edge of the spring.
JPH- How can you possibly tell that they aren't Crane springs by the pics given? Their is only a couple different manufacturers that make springs for all the different companies out there. I forget offhand who makes them for Crane but for example the Patriot Gold, AFR, PRC & Manley duals are all made by the same company. The difference being in their finish treatment & seat and retainer package. Not trying to knock you but just curious what you are seeing that I'm not.
JPH- How can you possibly tell that they aren't Crane springs by the pics given? Their is only a couple different manufacturers that make springs for all the different companies out there. I forget offhand who makes them for Crane but for example the Patriot Gold, AFR, PRC & Manley duals are all made by the same company. The difference being in their finish treatment & seat and retainer package. Not trying to knock you but just curious what you are seeing that I'm not.
Wondering myself. Just looks like a beehive retainer on a 832 to me as well. 
12-09-2007, 11:24 AM
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They definatley look like beehive retainers for the Comp 918's to me. Along with straight up dual springs. I personaly wouldn't run them like that. That retainer should cover the outer edge of the spring.
JPH- How can you possibly tell that they aren't Crane springs by the pics given? Their is only a couple different manufacturers that make springs for all the different companies out there. I forget offhand who makes them for Crane but for example the Patriot Gold, AFR, PRC & Manley duals are all made by the same company. The difference being in their finish treatment & seat and retainer package. Not trying to knock you but just curious what you are seeing that I'm not.
JPH- How can you possibly tell that they aren't Crane springs by the pics given? Their is only a couple different manufacturers that make springs for all the different companies out there. I forget offhand who makes them for Crane but for example the Patriot Gold, AFR, PRC & Manley duals are all made by the same company. The difference being in their finish treatment & seat and retainer package. Not trying to knock you but just curious what you are seeing that I'm not.
12-09-2007, 11:33 AM
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these are not a beehive retainer, there cranes dual spring retainer (#144944-16). The springs on these heads guys are not beehives, the guy just was sold the wrong springs. He was told they were #144832-16 springs, but they appear to be not. He has the right retainers for the springs he was suppose to get, but the look to have to big of outside diameter. When you use cranes spring/retainers together they fit perfect, and hardly does the spring protrude out around of the bottom side of there retainer.
