odarabla

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Please let me know if you guys think this is a good price. Trick flow 215cc CNC ported heads and cam install for $4950.00 Thats, parts, labor and tuning. Is this a good price or about average?

tatasta

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I know those heads are pricey but not that pricey. I did heads (Patriot, I know they are about half the price) and a TR224 112 cam install myself for around $1900. That included push rods, timing set and gaskets etc. If I would have had to pay that I never could have justified it. That's just me but even with labor that is very expensive. I have heard those are very good heads but........ Holy ****!
I can only say to shop around a little more. Just my opinion. Good luck!

stevied916

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heads are about 2300
cam and parts are about 800
tune is 450
total 3550

So they are basically charging you about 1500 for labor which is way too much

BADSS

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If that price includes aftermarket roller rocker arms (which are recommended with the TrickFlow heads), it sounds like a fair price.

outkast6991

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the going labor rate for a head swap around here seems to be between $800-$1200. so i think your on the high side. just my opinion

odarabla

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Here a little break down of parts and labor.

Trick flow 215cc heads\F14-112LSA high lift cam package:
-F14 cam
-FMS pushrods
-Trickflow heads w\dual spring upgrade
-heads\cam gasket swap kit
-ARP head bolts $3350.95

-Labor to swap heads\cam and dyno tune $1550.00

BADSS

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The labor is a little on the steep side, IMO- and you need roller rockers with those heads. Ron @ Vengeance recommends the Yella Terra ultralites.

So add another $400-$500 to the total for the rocker arms.

odarabla

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Yes, I found that out when I dropped the car off. So that was another $450.00 I was wrong about the cam size. The cam he's going to put in is the 232"/234" .646"/.612" 114LSA. So will this cam make more or less power than the 112 LSA?
He also said when it's finished it should run 10.80-11.0 in the 1/4 and be making 550-575 to the flywheel. Does this sound about right?

odarabla

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Also he said we didn't need to change the timing chain or the oil pump. The car has only 37,000 miles. Is this something that sould be changed?

slt200mph

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LS2 timing chain $28.00..as long as your in there might as well do it..the labor is high on this deal...

SOM02WS6

I would Def do an oil pump too, everyone says do it even with just a cam swap, and for the 125 or so for a ported ls6 its cheap insurance...

odarabla

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Labor is costing about $1100.00. You all think that is to high? The other $450.00 is for the dyno tune.

darrensls1

Need more info about your car. Stock displacement? What transmission? What intake? What size throttlebody? All other bolt ons like lid, LT's, ORY & underdrive pulley? If automatic what stall? suspension? Tires?

But off the top of my head I suspect he's being overly optimistic on both HP and track times. Most heads/cam stock weight cars are closer to mid 11's then they are 10's.

darrensls1

900-1400 is considered normal for heads/cam installs depending on where you live. So I would say it's not a bad price and I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

odarabla

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The car is a 2002 A4 with all bolt ons and a PTC 3500 stall converter. I still have the LS6 intake which I am going to stay with for a little while. The car as it sits averages 12.60@107mph and 1.78 60ft. Oh and it's a stock bottom end motor and I am running MT E.T. street DR's. I also live under sea level in NEW ORLEANS!! LOL

darrensls1

You're actually real close to my times. I even run the same tires. But you can forget 10's. Not enough stall and the ls6 intake/78mm TB combo will be kind of a bottleneck. I would expect 400 rwhp and solid mid 11's. But unless you add a 100 shot or do massive weight reduction then I wouldn't be expecting 10's.

When money allows a fast 90/90 setup would gain some nice HP. A slightly bigger stall wouldn't hurt either. Good luck.

odarabla

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I see what you are saying. The folks over at PTC said that the more power I make the higher the stall would be. The hp #'s you are giving me are way off from what Allan @ Futral says the car should make. He said I should make between 420-460 to the wheels and once I get the fast 90/90 setup it should be around 480rwhp. He also said that he just put that same setup on a LS2 vette A4 and it made 475rwhp with the stock intake. He assured me it would run at least 11.0's in the 1/4. If it doesn't then I guess I will be going some where else to get the work do from now on!!

darrensls1

Well I hope he's right. But the cam is not exactly huge, the intake isn't the best out there and you are going through an automatic.

Right now you're making about 320 rwhp based on your trap speed. I honestly don't see heads and cam gaining you 140 rwhp. But if you do then that's awesome. Post up the results when you get them.

odarabla

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I just wanted to pass this along to you. This is the package from summit racing with the heads I am using and a smaller cam then I have. If I used this package instead of the one I am going with and subtracted for the power train loss then my car would be making about 429RWHP. If the HP #'s is correct.

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...0&autoview=sku



Oh and the times I posted was an average for my car not my best. My best pass ever on a cold dry night was 12.30@110mph and a 60ft of 1.68

darrensls1

I'm familiar with the TFS heads and the Futural cams. But you have to remember that the best dyno numbers are gotten by M6's. If you honestly expect 450 rwhp through a stalled auto and high 10's at full weight with a 3500 stall then I fear you're going to be dissappointed.

But I hope I'm wrong. Keep us posted.