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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 03:09 PM
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Default Aliminum Block Vs. Iron Block

I've tried to use search to find some of these answers but haven't had much luck so far.

What are the pro's and con's of using each type of block for a bigger cube application?

Can the aliminum block handle big shots (300 and up) of Nitrous?

Does the Iron block bolt right up in an ls1 f-body?

Non block related question here but..

What's the max compression I can run on 93 octane (natrually aspirtated of course)


Thanks for all the help

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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 03:15 PM
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You can get more cubes out of an iorn block without re-sleving it. But the iorn block is gona be heavier. The iorn block can take more abuse than the aluminum block, but you cant run as much compression with the iorn block without using race gas. The Iorn block does bolt right up to the LS1

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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 03:25 PM
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1. YES Aluminum can handle BIG SHOTS, take the fellas at ARE for example. More expensive route to go but you can get more cubes that way.

2. I have heard mixed emotions on this one so I cant be sure. Engine components bolt up fine, the accessories are a tad bit tricky from what I have heard, I am no expert on that part though so dont take what I say on that as gospel.


Compression, I run 11:7:1 currently with no problems

Hope this helps a little
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 03:48 PM
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Keep in mind the iron block does not dissipate heat nearly as fast.
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 04:25 PM
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Iron block adds on about 90 lbs, but can handle the abuse of a big shot, turbo, or supercharger. The darton resleeved is a little more than twice the cost after machine work fees, but it is lighter and can handle a big shot also. Depends on how much you have to spend. I am finishing up a iron 422 right now, and changed k-member and deleted AC to make up the weight difference.
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 05:06 PM
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This has been discussed quite a bit.The only positive of the iron block is cost.The alum block when properly prepped can take very large shots and high boost.The fastest LS1 based setups are running alum blocks.Keep in mind if adding a blower or turbo with an iron block,you will have 150-175 extra lbs up front.The iron blocks tend to overheat much easier than alum.
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 05:56 PM
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I would go alum. I could not imagine adding another 90lbs to my 3800lb raceweight.. Not too mention I am going boost next. So I would be 4klbs b4 you know it.. Even with weight reduction I would have to take a lot out just to get down to 3600lbs with a iron block.. The lighter car making the same power as the heavier car is going to win every time with all other things being equal..
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 04:50 AM
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Thanks for the help guys I appreciate it. If the aliminum block is capable of handling the big huge shots and weighs less I see no reason for not going with it.

Looks like I'll start to build my 388 All bore pretty soon
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