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Old 02-24-2008, 10:46 AM
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ETP 215 are good for 450rwhp and more
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230/232 .612/.595 111+4 LSA and those ETP with bolt ons, correct quench, SCR, DCR, cam degreing and meticulous tuning and you'll make more than 450/420
I would say 470/430 +/-
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Tony Mamo with the AFR 205's and a 224/228 on a 114+1 did over 450 and this is a very street friendly setup with a good idle. You should be able to get there, just pick your cam accordingly.
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no problem, TF215's 230/230/113+2 .591 makes 454/430 , on a fresh motor, ring set break in only
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Originally Posted by mcamp001
no problem, TF215's 230/230/113+2 .591 makes 454/430 , on a fresh motor, ring set break in only
Yeah now that's what I am talking about.

What compression you running?

Most likely going with a custom grind 230/230 with a .610 lift

I wonder if the higher lift will actually hurt the velocity.
Old 02-25-2008, 12:19 PM
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I dd mine, its straight off the shelf afr 205s with a custom grind 228/228 113 lsa. Untouched fast 90 nw 90 tb and all bolt ons except ewp and ud pulley. Also running a ory y and lm catback. It dynoed at 454rwhp and 412 rwtq.
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I made 452HP 415TQ before tuning on a 232/236 .585 cam with a set of TEA stage 2 heads milled down a bit. 450 streetable is very easy when you add a decent set of heads.
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It is possible. When i was using a stock bottom end I had a tsp ms3 with full bolt ons fast 90 intake/NW90 tb. edelbrock 225 heads. I made 452rwhp/439rwtq. I drove that bitch everywhere.
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daily driving 450hp is alot of fun on the street, if I may say so myself. Just thought Id throw that in there.
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Typically what size injectors do people run with a 450 rwhp car?

ARP rod bolts required?

T-56 upgrade required? I planned on getting a LS7 clutch kit.
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ttt please
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Originally Posted by Pipelayaz
Typically what size injectors do people run with a 450 rwhp car?

ARP rod bolts required?

T-56 upgrade required? I planned on getting a LS7 clutch kit.
Im running the stock bottom end no rod bolts, stock t-56, centerforce dual friction clutch, and 42lb injectors. I didnt have to run the bigger injectors but, I got such a good deal on them I couldnt pass them up.
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Lots of good info. Good luck on your search. Be sure to post up your numbers and track times when you get um.
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My car made 448Rwhp and 418Rwtq with Patriot Performance stage II LS6 heads. You can look them up on patriot's site, SKU is 2029. For $1200 assembled I don't think you can beat them. It had a lid, LS6 intake, stock PP TB, LT's, SLP High Flow Cats, X pipe, Powersticks dumped. Exhaust is 2.5" after the collector. It made 395Rwhp and 368 Rwtq with the camshaft patriot sold as a package in it. I don't know the specs as I wasn't the owner during that time. TTP put in their Equalizer V3 cam and it jumped to the numbers I listed first. You can see the rest of my mods in my sig. It drives really tame for what it is. Granted, TTP probably has the tuning down to a science since it is their cam. It is one of those "secret" specs though, so I can't give you any figures because I still don't know them lol. After all this was done the guy sold the car and the next owner unfortunately parted out the Fiske wheels and swapped the LS6 intake for an LS1. So the tune is off and it is missing power all through the curve right now because of the intake swap and it still runs really good and strong. Here is the dyno graph after the swap for the V3. This is a very budget oriented build. And it was also still on maxed out stock injectors.

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^Not to knock your setup, but given the relatively cool temp of 59* listed and the fact that the #'s are uncorrected, your #'s are a bit higher than sae.
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Originally Posted by Pipelayaz
Typically what size injectors do people run with a 450 rwhp car?

ARP rod bolts required?

T-56 upgrade required? I planned on getting a LS7 clutch kit.
42's are the most common since they are relatively cheap and provide plenty of fuel.

Rod bolts are not required. T56 upgrade is not needed, the stock T56 can take a beating. The LS7 clutch is a good choice for that power level.
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Originally Posted by turbogarrett
^Not to knock your setup, but given the relatively cool temp of 59* listed and the fact that the #'s are uncorrected, your #'s are a bit higher than sae.
I have the corrected graph. I just don't have it on my computer. It's ~5hp less. Regardless, that's through an LS6 intake. The car was within 5hp of peak at 5500RPM and it lost its steam. I'm sure there are quite a few ponies left up there for the taking.
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I made 463whp and 411tq I'm going to mill the heads down a bit to pick up some more tq. Mods are in my sig.



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