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Patriot heads using bad valves?????
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Patriot heads using bad valves????? Waiting to see some results for the patriot heads. Poking around some threads I read about all the heads that went out have bad valves??? I was really hoping patriot would come through with a good product since I am looking into heads and why not save a bunch doing it. Patriot says they are using SI valves. what is SI valves? I never heard of it. Does any one have anymore info on this? is it a big concern?
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Re: Patriot heads using bad valves????? they use ferrea valves and they also have their own brand that they make...SI is most likely sodium something? like what the LS6 valves are so they are lighter.
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Re: Patriot heads using bad valves?????
they use ferrea valves and they also have their own brand that they make...SI is most likely sodium something? like what the LS6 valves are so they are lighter.
I have no better idea on what "SI" valves are than anyone else, just posting my thoughts...
Re: Patriot heads using bad valves????? wow, i just looked in the sponsor sect. seems like guys are pulling their heads back off to replace valves. There were also more problems with bolt holes lining up. I heard Patriot bought all of their heads right out of the cast and is doing all their own taping and machining. i guess you get what you pay for.
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Re: Patriot heads using bad valves????? First, We are not machining the heads.The heads are GM.We do not machine the castings.Second, Some of the Intake valves are weak on the tip of the valves.This was the valves we had manufactured for us.I do not make the valves.We are now using REV or SI (stainless Industries) silver line valves.Every set is not bad,I felt that everyone needed to know they might have a problem.Race heads are purchased without a warranty.I'm offering to replace the valves,Replace the heads gaskets and give some $$$ for their trouble.There is no longer a problem with the valves.All of those heads were shipped a couple of weeks ago.These kind of problems can happen to anybody,GM with a bad batch of cams,comp with a bad batch of springs.The problem was found early,everything will be corrected before someone damages their engine.I care about service after the sale.
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Re: Patriot heads using bad valves????? Blaming patriot for bad valves would be like blaming any other head porter for bad springs back when the comp 918's had their problem. I think Terry has went "above and beyond" what most other vendors would have done. Check out what he did on my heads in the group sponsors area... now that is some customer service.
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Re: Patriot heads using bad valves????? My Dad's vette bent a valve and cracked a spring. I was waiting to see the outcome before I posted but Terry shipped him a new set of heads (SI Valves and 918 springs)and is paying the towing fee. Which is great but it is still a 1400+ dollar loss plus down time on the car. anyways it is sitting at Norris motorsports awaiting the new heads. I'll let you guys know how it turns out.
Re: Patriot heads using bad valves????? not trying to fuel the fire, but Terry, how do you know if you got a set with the bad valves?i dont think i have any problem's with mine, i just want to make sure. thanx terry.
Must admit, have had nothing but compliments on the heads, and the price.
P.S. Keep up the good work
Must admit, have had nothing but compliments on the heads, and the price.
P.S. Keep up the good work
Re: Patriot heads using bad valves????? i think that its great that Terry is standing behind his product and is trying to stop a potential disaster before it happens instead of just waiting to see how many heads have a problem
good job Terry
good job Terry
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Re: Patriot heads using bad valves????? Mike m what do you mean there doing there own tapping and machining, I also read some guys are having nightmares getting bolts to line up, I dont know if they are professionals though, All I know they are new to the ls1 market selling heads for unheard of prices, which is great but not at the expense of quality parts. I want to know what im putting on my car before valves fall into my motor and springs crack. You have to understand I love my car more than my wife {doesnt everybody} I just want peace of mind that what im putting on my car is quality
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Re: Patriot heads using bad valves?????
Which is great but it is still a 1400+ dollar loss plus down time on the car.
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Re: Patriot heads using bad valves?????
Mike m what do you mean there doing there own tapping and machining, I also read some guys are having nightmares getting bolts to line up.
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From: NEW YORK INTERNATIONAL RACEWAY PARK
Re: Patriot heads using bad valves????? I was the one that complained about the bolt holes. I should have ran a bolt or a tap through the hole my mistake, or I was just off that day. I am mad that I have to take my engine back apart but Terry has more than went out of his way to make it right. I dont think you could name one sponsor over there >>>>> that would do this. I know because my freind got screwed by sponsor/GTP they ported the heads to far the sponsor made him call GTP and deal with them, he didnt get new gaskets, he didnt get any $$$, he payed the shipping, and we had to do all the. What happen with the 918 spring? Did those people get anything other than new springs? So give him a break, he could of dealt with this another way then you people would have something to complain about.
