MS3 vs TR224 or 230
03-31-2008, 10:18 AM
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Anyone who picks a cam based purely on sound alone is not very bright...
All that aside, the MS3 would get its *** KICKED by both cams until 5.5k-6k RPMS. The MS3 is WAY too soft on the bottom/midrange.
All that aside, the MS3 would get its *** KICKED by both cams until 5.5k-6k RPMS. The MS3 is WAY too soft on the bottom/midrange.
03-31-2008, 10:30 AM
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go with the ms3 it comes alive around 4k i have my rev limiter set at 6700 on stock bottom. i was told from tsp works really well with n20 and plan on hitting it with 150. and it sounds bad ***
03-31-2008, 10:44 AM
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I think im goin to do the MS3.. Like i said im gonna be running a TCI 3500 converter so ill get the revs outta it.. im not goin to do much track time cause i still have the stock pos rear end..so from a roll is where i want it to shine.. I also have to get a ls6 intake manifold right? and no this decision is not just based on sound.
03-31-2008, 10:47 AM
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oh btw im selling the bike tonight to a guy if all goes well..its a 03 sv1000 with 11,000 miles.. if that doesnt go through ill let you know...but if it does i plan on buyin a built tranny..same tranny in my car now just built up..i believe its the 4l60e ????? you think that would hold up some abuse?
03-31-2008, 12:02 PM
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im running the MTI X1 right now on my auto. ive got a vig 3200 stall and i made 395rwhp stock heads without a pulley and crappy 2.73..
the X1 is a 230/227 591/571 112. the drivability so far is decent, not bad. but i cant imagine driving an MS3!!!! you will be happy with the TR230/224.. plus its on a 111 lsa..
. it will sound mean as hell dude.. 2 things will kill your tranny high rpms= MS3 and heat..
dont get me wrong though alot of guys are happy with the MS3. i just honestly, wouldnt be driving around to where i can use the cam where its useful around here.
the X1 is a 230/227 591/571 112. the drivability so far is decent, not bad. but i cant imagine driving an MS3!!!! you will be happy with the TR230/224.. plus its on a 111 lsa..
. it will sound mean as hell dude.. 2 things will kill your tranny high rpms= MS3 and heat.. dont get me wrong though alot of guys are happy with the MS3. i just honestly, wouldnt be driving around to where i can use the cam where its useful around here.
03-31-2008, 12:05 PM
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i liked my tsp 224 on nitrous
made 500rwhp and 596rwtq (tq @ 3000rpm) w/a 125 wet and headers and 224 cam
that setup got my heavy auto goat w/stock converter to trap 122
made 500rwhp and 596rwtq (tq @ 3000rpm) w/a 125 wet and headers and 224 cam
that setup got my heavy auto goat w/stock converter to trap 122
03-31-2008, 12:24 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stoLKR55xlQ
MS3 is a good cam for you, if you say its not going to be a daily driver. This is my car its got a yank ss3600 and everything else in sig. Sorry its only idle for now, hope this helps.
MS3 is a good cam for you, if you say its not going to be a daily driver. This is my car its got a yank ss3600 and everything else in sig. Sorry its only idle for now, hope this helps.
03-31-2008, 01:49 PM
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anyone have any videos of the TR230..Ive only found very poor quality vids..I REALLY dont wanna go through any more tranny problems..The ms3 would put extra stress on the tranny compared to the tr230?? I just want a powerful car thats goin to be reliable and that i could daily drive if i needed too
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03-31-2008, 02:10 PM
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http://www.n2s1.net/RacingVideos/Jae...rx187_abc1.WMV
thats the best one i've seen...no idle but a friend of mine who moved home to florida knows the guy
he said it sounds mean as hell and he swore up and down it had to have a bigger cam than it does
thats the best one i've seen...no idle but a friend of mine who moved home to florida knows the guy
he said it sounds mean as hell and he swore up and down it had to have a bigger cam than it does
03-31-2008, 02:14 PM
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03-31-2008, 02:33 PM
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i love my ms3!!!!....sounds great and pulls like hell....
if i had it to do over i would get the ms4.....i have a beater too so the car never see's rain or weekday driving.....why not make it as radical as possible!!!
good luck deciding
hahahha that last video is bad ***....car sounds greeeeat
(zo6killa) huh.....didnt even beat the SS
if i had it to do over i would get the ms4.....i have a beater too so the car never see's rain or weekday driving.....why not make it as radical as possible!!!
good luck deciding
hahahha that last video is bad ***....car sounds greeeeat
(zo6killa) huh.....didnt even beat the SS
03-31-2008, 04:11 PM
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230/230 badass cam makes huge power look at my dyno results and track times for proof...i wouldnt do ms3 for a daily driver...i was going to too but i am so glad i didnt...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpU-CC5OOM0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpU-CC5OOM0
03-31-2008, 04:21 PM
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he's a member here as well
03-31-2008, 04:26 PM
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If your looking for all out power I would vote MS3, I have one but it isn't installed yet. Drivability with cams this big has to do mainly with a good tuner. I know several people with cams(MS3, MS4, & T-Rex) that have no qualms because they have great tunes with them. If your looking for a street car though I would go smaller because they will make power a little sooner than something that big, but you'd most likely start running them down in the long run anyway. From what i remember the MS3 starts peaking around 6400-6500 (one of my friends spun it to 6700) and would recommend rod bolts for a precaution. Don't absolutely need to have them, but just for assurance ya know.
03-31-2008, 05:41 PM
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If your looking for all out power I would vote MS3, I have one but it isn't installed yet. Drivability with cams this big has to do mainly with a good tuner. I know several people with cams(MS3, MS4, & T-Rex) that have no qualms because they have great tunes with them. If your looking for a street car though I would go smaller because they will make power a little sooner than something that big, but you'd most likely start running them down in the long run anyway. From what i remember the MS3 starts peaking around 6400-6500 (one of my friends spun it to 6700) and would recommend rod bolts for a precaution. Don't absolutely need to have them, but just for assurance ya know.
03-31-2008, 05:56 PM
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well im wanting to put rev limiter around 6300-6500 so im not to sure if the MS3 is a good choice.. like i said before im not going to be launching much cause of the stock rear end i cant afford to break that.. Im beggining to think the TR230..I keep goin back and forth lol.. idk i just want something that going to be fast from a roll since im not going to be going from a dig..
03-31-2008, 06:06 PM
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http://videos.streetfire.net/video/7...9F24231271.htm
the white Z in the middle has the 233/239cam its an auto. the red car nearest the camera has 224 and heads (patriot 2s i think) M6 and im the furthest car away MTI X1 no heads M6
the white Z in the middle has the 233/239cam its an auto. the red car nearest the camera has 224 and heads (patriot 2s i think) M6 and im the furthest car away MTI X1 no heads M6