Try looking a Futrals F14 cam.. My buddies 2001 Formula made 464rwhp and 430rwtrq through a stock converter A4 and the same heads I have. TFS 215cc. 
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h/c opinons ok im starting to look for stuff now im so unsure of what i should get i want to get a nice head and cam to make any where from 430-460 on a stock ci ls1. so which head and cam should i be looking at i was thinking of a ms3 but hear they dont have good low bottom end.im looking for somthing for street and strip. any one got any ideas? already got the bolt ons on the car. and its got the ls6 intakeif that helps with the hp goals to help me desided.
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You can't beat the TSP packages. What the MS3 lacks in the lower RPMs can be made up for with either a converter for the autos or a set of gears for the M6s.
I've got the PRC Stg 2.5 5.3 heads and the MS3 and I'm very happy with it
I've got the PRC Stg 2.5 5.3 heads and the MS3 and I'm very happy with it
not sure about packages but I can tell you those AFR 205, 215, 225 and TFS heads with a FAST 90 or 92 mm intake make great power with the right cam! since you're a street/strip car, I'd go with a mid sized cam... something like 23x/23x. I'm sure there are other heads out there that also make good power (ex. 5.3) and are not really pricey like these but I've seen numbers and those heads/intake are a great combination hands down
Or that!! I forgot about that one. Also Allan @ Futrals will custom spec you a cam if you like. Just call, tell him what you got and what you want your car to do and let Allan hook you up!! I told Allan I wanted to run 11.0s @ the track and he built my motor. I am just waiting for my Strange 12 bolt to come in so I can put it on and see what it runs @ the track.. 
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I love my combo, I had stock 342s, and a ten bolt. Just ordered my nine inch with 389 gears, so I'll lose some power on the dyno, but be faster on the streets and track. Great power throughout the entire rpm band and peaks at 6400. The only thing I would want is the sound of an ms4 or ms3. My entire mods in my sig.
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What kind of head, cam, intake setup did he set you up with? He custom ground my cam for me recently, and thats why I am asking what he recommended. Also what kind of weight did you tell him you would be running?
3420lbs with a full tank of gas. He said with what I had (stock tranny and rearend) at the time the car should run 11.30-11.40 @ around 120mph. With a Fast90/90 and a rearend I should be 11.0s or somewhere in the high 10s. I won't know for sure how accurate he is until I get my new rearend in. Which should be about another 2 weeks.. From what I hear from other folks I know that had Allan build there cars he's usually pretty damn close. I must say I was pretty impressed by Allan. When I first talked to him on the phone I was talking Hp #s. After a few conversations he flat out asked me if I wanted to make a peak hp # my goal or did I have a certain track number I wanted to hit. I told him a track #. What did you run at the track?
I took it to the track this past Sunday and no one could hook that great. My car has always had strong 60's but the best I could cut with a brand new set of ET Drags was 1.74. It ran a best of 11.68 @ 116.xx, so going by the general rule of thumb (which has proven almost completely accurate for me) every tenth off of you 60' is .15 on the big end is 11.38. The track was green and the prep was below par, but hopefully I will be at a different track which is eighth mile for some more comparison numbers.
Allan was great to work with, but when he asked what I wanted I too said max ET over a dyno queen, but I built a nitrous specific motor. The cam that I have is on a 114 LSA and advanced the centerline 4 more degree's. It's a forged 347 with a FAST 90 and PTM throttle body and a set of milled Stage 2 Livernois heads putting me at 11.1:1 compression. So needless to say I am excited to see what I can whittle my times down to because this motor feels really strong!
I didn't get to spray due to a solenoid junking out on me, but soon it will see the juice. Now I am trying to find a better set of flowing heads and possibly do a dyno comparison with a Voctor Jr carb intake and 90mm elbow.
Allan was great to work with, but when he asked what I wanted I too said max ET over a dyno queen, but I built a nitrous specific motor. The cam that I have is on a 114 LSA and advanced the centerline 4 more degree's. It's a forged 347 with a FAST 90 and PTM throttle body and a set of milled Stage 2 Livernois heads putting me at 11.1:1 compression. So needless to say I am excited to see what I can whittle my times down to because this motor feels really strong!
I didn't get to spray due to a solenoid junking out on me, but soon it will see the juice. Now I am trying to find a better set of flowing heads and possibly do a dyno comparison with a Voctor Jr carb intake and 90mm elbow.
I took it to the track this past Sunday and no one could hook that great. My car has always had strong 60's but the best I could cut with a brand new set of ET Drags was 1.74. It ran a best of 11.68 @ 116.xx, so going by the general rule of thumb (which has proven almost completely accurate for me) every tenth off of you 60' is .15 on the big end is 11.38. The track was green and the prep was below par, but hopefully I will be at a different track which is eighth mile for some more comparison numbers.
Allan was great to work with, but when he asked what I wanted I too said max ET over a dyno queen, but I built a nitrous specific motor. The cam that I have is on a 114 LSA and advanced the centerline 4 more degree's. It's a forged 347 with a FAST 90 and PTM throttle body and a set of milled Stage 2 Livernois heads putting me at 11.1:1 compression. So needless to say I am excited to see what I can whittle my times down to because this motor feels really strong!
I didn't get to spray due to a solenoid junking out on me, but soon it will see the juice. Now I am trying to find a better set of flowing heads and possibly do a dyno comparison with a Voctor Jr carb intake and 90mm elbow.
Allan was great to work with, but when he asked what I wanted I too said max ET over a dyno queen, but I built a nitrous specific motor. The cam that I have is on a 114 LSA and advanced the centerline 4 more degree's. It's a forged 347 with a FAST 90 and PTM throttle body and a set of milled Stage 2 Livernois heads putting me at 11.1:1 compression. So needless to say I am excited to see what I can whittle my times down to because this motor feels really strong!
I didn't get to spray due to a solenoid junking out on me, but soon it will see the juice. Now I am trying to find a better set of flowing heads and possibly do a dyno comparison with a Voctor Jr carb intake and 90mm elbow.
416 @ 6700 with full 2 1/4 exhaust and ET Street Slicks. I haven't had it finaly tuned and had all of the bugs worked out but it should be well into the 430's easily. I used to run ET street slicks (not the radials) but I recently purchased a set of ET Drags and they are awesome, the track was just terrible. Everyone that went was atleast two tenths slower than usual on the 60' times, and the same went for me. I could litterally hook better on the road in front of the track and not get the car walking like it would right off the line on the track (and yes this was at the same tire pressure.)
As far as spray it will see two stages varying between 250-300 and possibly more. It should hopefully propel me into the 9's, and from the way the car is running and as light as it is it shouldn't have any propblems.
As far as spray it will see two stages varying between 250-300 and possibly more. It should hopefully propel me into the 9's, and from the way the car is running and as light as it is it shouldn't have any propblems.
416 @ 6700 with full 2 1/4 exhaust and ET Street Slicks. I haven't had it finaly tuned and had all of the bugs worked out but it should be well into the 430's easily. I used to run ET street slicks (not the radials) but I recently purchased a set of ET Drags and they are awesome, the track was just terrible. Everyone that went was atleast two tenths slower than usual on the 60' times, and the same went for me. I could litterally hook better on the road in front of the track and not get the car walking on the track (and yes this was at the same tire pressure.)
As far as spray it will see two stages varying between 250-300 and possibly more. It should hopefully propel me into the 9's, and from the way the car is running and as light as it is it shouldn't have any propblems.
As far as spray it will see two stages varying between 250-300 and possibly more. It should hopefully propel me into the 9's, and from the way the car is running and as light as it is it shouldn't have any propblems.
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