MS3 on this set up?
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MS3 on this set up? Friend of mine got 2001 M6 Camaro with this set up Hooker LT,Custom Y pipe,SLP LM,SLP air lid,SLP air filter,SLP pulley,LS6 intake from factory,241 heads from factory,he will port the TB soon,factory 3.42 and some other parts he want to swap cam to MS3 he just need that choppy idle I think Torquer 2 or 3 is good for his set up but I said first I ask LS1tech members so suggest the best cam with the choppy idle for this set up and what other parts we need like springs or oil pump
You'll need Springs, Pushrods, timing chain (better safe than sorry)
how many miles does the SS Have?? if its high milage I would change the Lifter and the Oil pump.
Any of those cams posted above will give him a choppy idle but I think MS3 Will a little more rough than TV2 or TV3 Beacuse the bigger Duration.
Since your getting the cam from TSP Check their website they CAMSHAFT Packages with great prices.
how many miles does the SS Have?? if its high milage I would change the Lifter and the Oil pump.
Any of those cams posted above will give him a choppy idle but I think MS3 Will a little more rough than TV2 or TV3 Beacuse the bigger Duration.
Since your getting the cam from TSP Check their website they CAMSHAFT Packages with great prices.
You will need chromolly pushrods, ls2 timing chain, PRC dual spring kit, front gasket kit, stock heads will be ok. Depending on the miles of the car a new oil pump wouldnt hurt either. I'm m6 with the ms4 and stock 3.42's suck with the ms cams, you will want 4.10's to put it to good use. He already has enough breathing room with intake and full exhaust so that is ok there. Also you will need at minimum a mail order tune from TSP but an old fashioned dyno tune would be recommended. Oh and some n2o on the back burner wouldn't hurt 
EDIT: It is not necessary to replace lifter's especially if oil pressure looks good as that would be huge unecessary step b/c you have to remove the heads for that. Then you will need to clean the block and buy new head gaskets, all this is not needed unless you absolutely have a bad lifter or lifter problem.
EDIT: It is not necessary to replace lifter's especially if oil pressure looks good as that would be huge unecessary step b/c you have to remove the heads for that. Then you will need to clean the block and buy new head gaskets, all this is not needed unless you absolutely have a bad lifter or lifter problem.
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I told him about your reply's and he said I will go with Torquer 2 or 3 ask them which one is better with choppy idle and cheap springs he kinda had a heart attack when he saw how much the dual springs costs lol
I would say the cost is worth it with the dual springs, I think the TQ 3 requires dual springs but im not sure. I think he would like the cost of Dual Springs over the cost of new heads in case of a spring failure right?
definitely can't go cheap on the springs. That'll bite him in the *** real fast. If he thinks the springs are expensive, wait until he sees how much it'll cost to fix the damage. That's my opinion, don't screw around with the springs, get good ones...
from the looks of the lift on the v.3 I would still recommend dual springs, to be honest springs are cheaper than stock heads. You can find stock heads for sale all the time. I got mine from an 02 ss with 10k miles for $150 shipped. However that being said that is NO excuse the cheap out on springs. Valve train is nothing to skimp out on when swaping ur cam. I would tell ur friend if hes not wanting to spend that much and do the proper upgrade not to even do the cam swap. Instead tell him to buy an n2o kit and play around for awhile.
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Found this package in TSP http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=174&catid=44 but there is a cam in the list 233/239 is this better than the Torquer 2 ? we will get the whole package from that page but we need the best cam in that package with the roughest idle
To be quite honest, it sounds like your friend is choosing a cam for all the wrong reasons.
As stated above, do not go cheap on the springs, period. I never install singles, just for teh added safety factor of the duals if one breaks.
Dont buy a cam for how it "Chops", buy the one that will match the mods and goals he has for the car. If you are looking at Texas Speed i am sure they would be much better suited to answering your questions then any of us about thier products
As stated above, do not go cheap on the springs, period. I never install singles, just for teh added safety factor of the duals if one breaks.
Dont buy a cam for how it "Chops", buy the one that will match the mods and goals he has for the car. If you are looking at Texas Speed i am sure they would be much better suited to answering your questions then any of us about thier products
To be quite honest, it sounds like your friend is choosing a cam for all the wrong reasons.
As stated above, do not go cheap on the springs, period. I never install singles, just for teh added safety factor of the duals if one breaks.
Dont buy a cam for how it "Chops", buy the one that will match the mods and goals he has for the car. If you are looking at Texas Speed i am sure they would be much better suited to answering your questions then any of us about thier products
As stated above, do not go cheap on the springs, period. I never install singles, just for teh added safety factor of the duals if one breaks.
Dont buy a cam for how it "Chops", buy the one that will match the mods and goals he has for the car. If you are looking at Texas Speed i am sure they would be much better suited to answering your questions then any of us about thier products
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To be quite honest, it sounds like your friend is choosing a cam for all the wrong reasons.
As stated above, do not go cheap on the springs, period. I never install singles, just for teh added safety factor of the duals if one breaks.
Dont buy a cam for how it "Chops", buy the one that will match the mods and goals he has for the car. If you are looking at Texas Speed i am sure they would be much better suited to answering your questions then any of us about thier products
As stated above, do not go cheap on the springs, period. I never install singles, just for teh added safety factor of the duals if one breaks.
Dont buy a cam for how it "Chops", buy the one that will match the mods and goals he has for the car. If you are looking at Texas Speed i am sure they would be much better suited to answering your questions then any of us about thier products
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