hope yours does well. sounds like a nice set up. 
The 416 is finally alive!
The 416 is finally alive! Well I finally fired up my 416 in my 02 Z06. It took alot longer than I thought, as usual, but I wanted to make sure that I had every thing correct. It sounds so tame I could get away with saying it is a mild cam car. Here is the combo.
SDPC forged 416
SCR 12.01:1 DCR 8.73:1
TFS 235's 68cc
Cometic .040
Yella Terra UL's
Comp 7.650" push rods
Comp 850-16's
Comp XER 244/248 .612/.615 114+4 109.5 icl
Vengeance ported 90/90 port matched by me
39lb injectors
Vararam
ASP UD
Kooks 1 7/8" 3" X w/o catts
Borla Stingers
Tex 0Z700
Tuned by me with EFI live.
I did the first 45min break in yesterday and even little quarter throttle blips spin the tires. I can't wait for this thing to be broken in so I can get on it. I will get dyno numbers and track time in the next couple of weeks. The last combo was a 383 with the same cam and intake system but with TSP heads and less compression. That motor made 490/445rw and ran 10.8's at 130 with 1.65 60ft at 477rw in full street trim. The goals for this motor is 550/525rw and a 9.9x@137 in full drag trim. I will probably need to change the cam and get an EWP to get there but that is the goal.
SDPC forged 416
SCR 12.01:1 DCR 8.73:1
TFS 235's 68cc
Cometic .040
Yella Terra UL's
Comp 7.650" push rods
Comp 850-16's
Comp XER 244/248 .612/.615 114+4 109.5 icl
Vengeance ported 90/90 port matched by me
39lb injectors
Vararam
ASP UD
Kooks 1 7/8" 3" X w/o catts
Borla Stingers
Tex 0Z700
Tuned by me with EFI live.
I did the first 45min break in yesterday and even little quarter throttle blips spin the tires. I can't wait for this thing to be broken in so I can get on it. I will get dyno numbers and track time in the next couple of weeks. The last combo was a 383 with the same cam and intake system but with TSP heads and less compression. That motor made 490/445rw and ran 10.8's at 130 with 1.65 60ft at 477rw in full street trim. The goals for this motor is 550/525rw and a 9.9x@137 in full drag trim. I will probably need to change the cam and get an EWP to get there but that is the goal.
No I never stop. I want to stay on top. But I think I am done now no matter how much I want to stay on top.
Bring it bye this winter blu and we will get you squared away. How is the new set up running?
Okay, WTF. I just went for another drive and I get a cam sensor code. I can't delete it and if I do it just comes right back. It runs fine. I know all the connectors are correct. Any ideas. I know LS2bait said he had an issue with his LS3 timing cover/cam sensor being wired wrong. Any one encountered this before?
Bring it bye this winter blu and we will get you squared away. How is the new set up running?
Okay, WTF. I just went for another drive and I get a cam sensor code. I can't delete it and if I do it just comes right back. It runs fine. I know all the connectors are correct. Any ideas. I know LS2bait said he had an issue with his LS3 timing cover/cam sensor being wired wrong. Any one encountered this before?
Last edited by Pray; May 24, 2008 at 12:46 PM.
Can you explain what was wrong with your cam sensor again. And what did you have to do to fix it? Did you get a code? I can't remember the number off the top of my head right now. I think it will make power, it feels strong so far. But only the track and dyno will tell. Did you ever get yours to the track and validate the power numbers?
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How's she doing on 93 octane ?? Any knock at all ??
Your setup looks like she's going to be badass once you get her all sorted out. Good luck on the dyno and at the track.
Your setup looks like she's going to be badass once you get her all sorted out. Good luck on the dyno and at the track.
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Thanks. No knock at all yet. I haven't been able to go WOT obviously yet. I have run all the way up to 8.88 DCR with 28* totoal timing with no problem in 100*+ southern heat. I was running 29* total on my last combo. DCR seems to be where it is at. I had one car with 9.1 DCR due to the wrong head gasket that would still take 24* total. I trusted what the guy brought me to install and didn't do the math for my self. That won't happen again. I will keep you updated as I get some miles on the car.
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Pray,
Subscribing to your thread,,,,can't wait to see some numbers as all of my parts are here for my very similar build, hope to have it up and running by the middle of June.
LME forged 418
K1 forged crank and rods
Wiseco pistons
AFR big bore 225's massaged by Pete Incaudo (VMAX Motorsports)
YT 1.7 rollers
Comp XER 244/254 .612"/.646"--112+2
Comp 7.4" pushrods
FAST 90/LS7 TB ported by Pete
SCR 11.75/ DCR 8.7
42# injectors
ARH 1-7/8" race headers, no cats, full 3" chambered exhaust
Stock balancer,,GM MLS head gaskets, ARP studs EE catch can
Going into my '03 Z06
Shooting for 550/500 to the tires,,,,,we shall see!
please keep us posted and I'll do the same.
Jimbo
Subscribing to your thread,,,,can't wait to see some numbers as all of my parts are here for my very similar build, hope to have it up and running by the middle of June.
LME forged 418
K1 forged crank and rods
Wiseco pistons
AFR big bore 225's massaged by Pete Incaudo (VMAX Motorsports)
YT 1.7 rollers
Comp XER 244/254 .612"/.646"--112+2
Comp 7.4" pushrods
FAST 90/LS7 TB ported by Pete
SCR 11.75/ DCR 8.7
42# injectors
ARH 1-7/8" race headers, no cats, full 3" chambered exhaust
Stock balancer,,GM MLS head gaskets, ARP studs EE catch can
Going into my '03 Z06
Shooting for 550/500 to the tires,,,,,we shall see!
please keep us posted and I'll do the same.
Jimbo
Can you explain what was wrong with your cam sensor again. And what did you have to do to fix it? Did you get a code? I can't remember the number off the top of my head right now. I think it will make power, it feels strong so far. But only the track and dyno will tell. Did you ever get yours to the track and validate the power numbers?
2 of the wires were crossed in the front cover for the cam sensor. i belive it was pin a and c.if u follow the colors from connecter to connecter you can see if it got crossed. but mine wouldnt want to start from the get go because of this. and ran like *** because it was running on bank to bank with no cam signal. it also caused my tach to not work at all. you may have something else going on. no i havent been to the track as i have more issues with it that seem to be in the driveline. havent been able to find it yet but it has a violent vibration when you get into the throttle. and my cam just isnt working in this combo. only made 501/465 on a hero pull and am getting 10 mpg.
Thanks, Jimbo
Venom. Thanks, I know 9's is going to be a feat but I think in race trim with a low 1.4 60ft I can get there. Like I said above, I may need to change my cam, and go to an EWP, and 3.90's. It is alwayse good to have goals. I just wanted a solid 10 sec 135mph DD and I think I got it.
Jims. Sounds like a killer combo. Should make more power than mine. Good luck with it.
LS2. I wish I would have asked you sooner. That sensor is burried in my car. This morning it didn't want to start. It finally did and didn't run all that great. I guess I will just have to dig in there. Was there any thing in the tune that you had to change for the cam sensor? I am almost out of ideas. It is code (P0343) Cam sensor voltage high sensor 1.
Jims. Sounds like a killer combo. Should make more power than mine. Good luck with it.
LS2. I wish I would have asked you sooner. That sensor is burried in my car. This morning it didn't want to start. It finally did and didn't run all that great. I guess I will just have to dig in there. Was there any thing in the tune that you had to change for the cam sensor? I am almost out of ideas. It is code (P0343) Cam sensor voltage high sensor 1.
LS2. I wish I would have asked you sooner. That sensor is burried in my car. This morning it didn't want to start. It finally did and didn't run all that great. I guess I will just have to dig in there. Was there any thing in the tune that you had to change for the cam sensor? I am almost out of ideas. It is code (P0343) Cam sensor voltage high sensor 1.
We went with the heavy exhaust bias on my cam because of the way the heads flow, (intake flow starts dropping off right around .615 lift, but exhaust flow keeps climbing up to .700 lift) Pete did alot of flow testing using an intake pipe on the Superflo bench. He also don't like the lsk lobes because they are alot harder on springs that the XE-R lobes. I trust his judgement on this due to his extensive experience. (35+ years in the game)
My current combo in the LS6 came from him and it has performed flawlwssly especially on the road course where the car has regularly embarassed quite a few 427's!
Jimbo
My current combo in the LS6 came from him and it has performed flawlwssly especially on the road course where the car has regularly embarassed quite a few 427's!
Jimbo
LS2. I just talked to a buddy of mine with the same extension harness and he had the same exact problems I am experiencing. So I crawled under there and change the A and C wires and it fired right up. I have to fire it up again to give it two chances to trip. I had to swap the red and the brown on the A and C connectors at the cam sensor. I just hope the problem isn't at the other end of the harness. Then I will have to take the manifold off which is a PITA due to the new oil sensor location.
I am def going to look into a custom cam in the future. Budget and restrained me to the cam that is in there now. I don't in any way think it is maximised for my combo.
I am def going to look into a custom cam in the future. Budget and restrained me to the cam that is in there now. I don't in any way think it is maximised for my combo.
Pray, which harness did you get? I just got mine the other day from SDPC, and its the Katech one,,,just wondering if I should swap the leads before I install it so I don't have the same problems you have had.
Jimbo
Jimbo
just look it over before u install it. u can match the pins and colors throughout the harness. if they swap at any point then swap them back. mine was actually swapped in thw cover but it doesnt matter u cant swap them at any juncture and they will be ok.
I did get the Katech one from SDPC. I had to reverse the wires at the connector at the timing cover. It was set up Red to A, Pink/Black to B, and Brown to C. I had to swap A and C. I put another 50+ miles on it and it ran perfect, no codes. Well it didn't run perfect but you know what I mean. Thanks for the help guys.
Here is a good kick in the nuts. I hate breaking in a motor. On the way home a GSXR 600 wanted to run bad. He kept slowing down and revving and crap. I think it was the one I smoked by three cars the other day with my 383 looking for some pay back. But of course, I can't do any thing. So he shakes his head at me and rolls off like I better know my place. I wanted to break that guys heart so bad. I probably would have put six cars on him this time with the new combo. But I will have another chance later. Bikes are every where around here.
Here is a good kick in the nuts. I hate breaking in a motor. On the way home a GSXR 600 wanted to run bad. He kept slowing down and revving and crap. I think it was the one I smoked by three cars the other day with my 383 looking for some pay back. But of course, I can't do any thing. So he shakes his head at me and rolls off like I better know my place. I wanted to break that guys heart so bad. I probably would have put six cars on him this time with the new combo. But I will have another chance later. Bikes are every where around here.