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Old May 24, 2008 | 06:59 PM
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Anyone know anything about this cam? They claim 430 HP. Is that crank or wheel horsepower? Thanks!
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Old May 24, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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it is crank horse power. its a nice cam for someone wanting a little more kick without having to tune the car when your done. if you are interested in it talk to 99blancoss he can get you a great deal on it.
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Yep, offeriing it with valve springs and pushrods. Its the perfect beginer package.

You dont need to worry about all the normal stuff associated with a bigger cam swap. Tuning alone is 300-450 but not with this cam.
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Old May 24, 2008 | 08:00 PM
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Netting 366 wheel horse power from a cam alone is pretty impressive.
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I even provide a free tool rental package for you to do the job as well. It doesnt get any easier.
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most people can net 360-370RWHP from an ls6 cam and springs for around $100-200

Paying 350-400 for the edelbrock cam seems rediculous

I know of quite a few people who ran 224's on a 114 untuned for over a year and made great power

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Old May 24, 2008 | 10:11 PM
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Those results are over a stock ls6 cam in a 2001 ls6.

Yea you can run a tr224 untuned but it isnt a dream to drive and your not doing yourself any favors. I ran a tr224 for a year and a half I know what the cam drove like untuned. Made some power yes but not near as much as with a good tune.

This Edelbrock avoids all that and I offer it with springs and pushrods for less than you can get a mid size cam that requires more money to properly utilize it.

You seem to miss the point of the cam... no tune, no rear-end, no clutch issues, no trans issues.. You need to look at the big picture and half assing a cam install and not tuning it for a year is not something I would do or recommend to anyone.

Have a small budget and want to do it yourself this is perfect for some extra power and hands on experience. You could even go so far as to use it to practice tuning if you wanted to learn how to tune. Is is the end all megadeth cobra slayer cam..LOL no, it was never intended to be.

and its ridiculous to think you;ll get 370 rwhp just by swapping to an ls6 cam in your ls1. Show me the proof on that one..LOL

I put a tr224 cam only in and didnt hit 370 without supporting mods or a tune.
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Old May 25, 2008 | 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
Those results are over a stock ls6 cam in a 2001 ls6.

Yea you can run a tr224 untuned but it isnt a dream to drive and your not doing yourself any favors. I ran a tr224 for a year and a half I know what the cam drove like untuned. Made some power yes but not near as much as with a good tune.

This Edelbrock avoids all that and I offer it with springs and pushrods for less than you can get a mid size cam that requires more money to properly utilize it.

You seem to miss the point of the cam... no tune, no rear-end, no clutch issues, no trans issues.. You need to look at the big picture and half assing a cam install and not tuning it for a year is not something I would do or recommend to anyone.

Have a small budget and want to do it yourself this is perfect for some extra power and hands on experience. You could even go so far as to use it to practice tuning if you wanted to learn how to tune. Is is the end all megadeth cobra slayer cam..LOL no, it was never intended to be.

and its ridiculous to think you;ll get 370 rwhp just by swapping to an ls6 cam in your ls1. Show me the proof on that one..LOL

I put a tr224 cam only in and didnt hit 370 without supporting mods or a tune.
i put down 361 rwhp with a ls6 cam on a stalled auto with a 3800 vig stall
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Old May 25, 2008 | 03:52 AM
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Lets see the graph. You put down more power than most guys do with a medium sized cam and an M6 trans.

Again, Edelbrock tested that to be the power gained over an LS6 cam in a 2001 ls6.

Cam only with an M6 I put down 355 with a tr224 and few supporting mods.

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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
Lets see the graph. You put down more power than most guys do with a medium sized cam and an M6 trans.

Again, Edelbrock tested that to be the power gained over an LS6 cam in a 2001 ls6.

Cam only with an M6 I put down 355 with a tr224 and few supporting mods.
dont get me wrong i have full bolt ons bbk intake t/b headers pulley all the good stuff and a performance tune with only 49k miles.and i made 361 rwhp and 339 torque i post up the graph tomorrow
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Oh so now the rest of the story comes into play : a tune, intake, TB, headers. The whole point of this cam is no tune required to gain more power.

Give this cam those supporting mods and you be doing better than what Edelbrock has stated obviously. Try comparing apples to apples next time

With just a tune and no mods you can gain power over an oem tune no matter what cam is in there.

You've missed the point or ignored it completely. Dont bother with your graph its useless in this case.
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blanco what would that cam give me if i added headers and an ls6 intake, just a rough estimate.
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$510 just for a cam (summit),, WOW
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Originally Posted by jay_lt4
$510 just for a cam (summit),, WOW

Thats why you buy it from me in a package deal with pushrods and springs for just about the same amount
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
Thats why you buy it from me in a package deal with pushrods and springs for just about the same amount


what is your price for the cam only, my brother was looking at it till he saw the price.
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pm'ing you with prices and options
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Originally Posted by sslateron
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...gn=Ls1tech.com

Anyone know anything about this cam? They claim 430 HP. Is that crank or wheel horsepower? Thanks!
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it is crank horse power. its a nice cam for someone wanting a little more kick without having to tune the car when your done. if you are interested in it talk to 99blancoss he can get you a great deal on it.
Must be crank HP with that lift and duration numbers. It hardly seems worth it to do the swap for that little of an increase. This was done on an LS6 engine as well, it's already at about 400 crank HP from the factory is it not?
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Originally Posted by twitchtwice
blanco what would that cam give me if i added headers and an ls6 intake, just a rough estimate.
Thats a tough call really. If you listen to internet numbers you would gain 25hp from the LTs and 20hp from the intake putting you at 400rwhp..LOL

Not going to happen.

I cant even venture a guess to be honest with you. From my experience you just cant say. It all works together and your allowing it to breath better with the LTs and intake. I would guess conservatively 20 more HP with intake and LT's. But at that point you would really want a tune to maximize things and not being major mods you could get away with an inexpensive mail order from Trifecta.
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Originally Posted by wht01ws6ta
Must be crank HP with that lift and duration numbers. It hardly seems worth it to do the swap for that little of an increase. This was done on an LS6 engine as well, it's already at about 400 crank HP from the factory is it not?
Your not seeing the big picture. Its called the butterfly effect.
The flapping wing represents a small change in the initial condition of the system, which causes a chain of events leading to large-scale alterations
It was not meant to be a big cam or even a medium sized cam. Dont try and compare it with a trex..LOL
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
Your not seeing the big picture. Its called the butterfly effect.

It was not meant to be a big cam or even a medium sized cam. Dont try and compare it with a trex..LOL
I was just trying to compare it to a "medium" size or what most people would think of as even a "baby" cam like a 224/224. I guess I just can't see spending the money and/or the effort to do a cam and spring swap and only gain about 30 crank HP or a little more. An engine won't "need" a tune (although it would definitely benefit from it) because it's just a little more than a stock cam lol
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