View Poll Results: Did you use your stock pushrods for your baby cam?
Yes I have, dont be scared!
27
35.06%
No I have not, dont be so cheap!
50
64.94%
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Who has used there stock push rods for a mild cam?
06-02-2008, 11:31 PM
#22
Just out of curiosity can anyone show me a thread where there was a catastrophic motor failure due to a pushrod alone? Cause I have yet to see one. Infact the only guys I ever see bending any pushrods are ones who miss shifts and over rev the **** out of the motor, in which case i would rather have a pushrod bend than a valve anyday. Not saying hardened rods arent a good idea, just dont see why they are a necessity like so many say.
06-03-2008, 01:35 PM
#24
Well, I voted that I have stock pushrods, but it's not because I'm cheap, I just haven't had the chance to get a pushrod checker and calculate the correct length. A friend just ordered a pushrod checker, so I'll do it in the near future and order the correct ones.
I've checked mine on occasion and they are still straight as an arrow, so worst case scenario, as stated, is that I'm not getting full lift out of my cam because they are deflecting slightly at high rpm and not giving full lift.
I've checked mine on occasion and they are still straight as an arrow, so worst case scenario, as stated, is that I'm not getting full lift out of my cam because they are deflecting slightly at high rpm and not giving full lift.
06-03-2008, 01:37 PM
#25
An even better question is to ask how many people ordered pushrods without actually checking what the correct length needs to be?????? To many people guess at the length based on the cam base circle as well as how much has been milled off the heads and how thick of a gasket they are running.... stop trying to do the math and just use the tool to check it.
06-03-2008, 01:40 PM
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Just out of curiosity can anyone show me a thread where there was a catastrophic motor failure due to a pushrod alone? Cause I have yet to see one. Infact the only guys I ever see bending any pushrods are ones who miss shifts and over rev the **** out of the motor, in which case i would rather have a pushrod bend than a valve anyday. Not saying hardened rods arent a good idea, just dont see why they are a necessity like so many say.
for what its worth, i did use stock push rods on my first cam 222/222 .568 .568 for a long time with no problems, but when i switched to a bigger cam it didnt last 200 miles
06-05-2008, 02:21 PM
#30
You can get by with stockers on a mild cam with weak ramp rates. You shouldn't but you can. A weak pushrod is in no way a threat to the engine itself, so they really have nothing to do with "$3000 piece of mind" as some people have mentioned. It won't cause catastrophic engine failure.
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06-05-2008, 03:07 PM
#31
Stupid not to change PR's, springs and retainers. Not to mention that the base circle is generally smaller, so you should probably be running a 7.40" pushrod anyway. Depending on mileage, lifters and timing chain and gear, oil pump should be replaced. Remember the newest F body is now 6 years old.
06-05-2008, 03:37 PM
#32
Stupid not to change PR's, springs and retainers. Not to mention that the base circle is generally smaller, so you should probably be running a 7.40" pushrod anyway. Depending on mileage, lifters and timing chain and gear, oil pump should be replaced. Remember the newest F body is now 6 years old.
7.4 is the stock pushrod length. Replacing the entire timing set is out of the ordinary to for a small cam swap. Stick a new chain on the old sprockets and be done. Six years old is not old at all.
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06-05-2008, 03:54 PM
#33
Just out of curiosity can anyone show me a thread where there was a catastrophic motor failure due to a pushrod alone? Cause I have yet to see one. Infact the only guys I ever see bending any pushrods are ones who miss shifts and over rev the **** out of the motor, in which case i would rather have a pushrod bend than a valve anyday. Not saying hardened rods arent a good idea, just dont see why they are a necessity like so many say.
06-05-2008, 04:16 PM
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Please do explain how it is "better safe than sorry" to change retainers, and when you can do that you will have gained some sort of credit for your opinion. You can't though, because it doesn't make any sense at all.
06-05-2008, 04:47 PM
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Do you change your alternator and starter for preventative maintenance too?
06-05-2008, 05:07 PM
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At 62 years old I have rebuilt my fair share of engines and I'm just trying to offer some good advice and not trying to get into a pissing contest with anyone.
IMO it's very short sighted not to replace parts, particularly valve train parts, when the engine is apart. Case closed.
IMO it's very short sighted not to replace parts, particularly valve train parts, when the engine is apart. Case closed.