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Old 06-15-2008, 06:53 PM
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If you have the cash...I would say either Trick Flows or AFRs, also hearing good things about the new edelbrocks.

For bang for the buck I would go with the PRCs
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Originally Posted by MrElectric03
If you have the cash...I would say either Trick Flows or AFRs, also hearing good things about the new edelbrocks.

For bang for the buck I would go with the PRCs
Agreed. If you don't have the cash just save up until you do have the cash and buy good heads.
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OK heres the setup...

346 LS1
Currently Have Dart heads... they have been great heads and make pretty good power considering my baby cam.
216/220 .525/.532 114 LSA
I have a underdrive pulley
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I dynoed 365 rwhp through my 4l60E.


NEW SET UP

I am swappin to a T56 with a moser 9 inch with a 4.10 in a few weeks and plan to go with a considerably larger cam...

I'm think 236/230 .6??/ 6.?? lift 112 LSA???
I plan to install a new set of American Racing headers
New cat back

I am considering ET performance, AFR, Trick Flow, and Edelbrock.

I know I want smaller runners (i think) and I realize flow is important, especially not just at the top .600+ Still I am unsure which are better performers and exactly why?

I hope to make 450+ rwhp

475 would tickle me sh*#less
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Those numbers are attainable but that 9" is going to eat some power. I did a max effort 347 with Mamo massaged AFR's matched 90 NW TB and my heavy drivetrain and got to 439..LOL Same formula Patrick used to get to 500 but he had a better Y pipe and the stock rear and didnt have heavy aftermarket 18" wheels either. Cam was a 238/240 113 lsa +3 I think. All 4 of those heads would do it, the AFR would need to be touched up by Tony I would think. The TFS and Edelbrocks are available, the ET's dont seem to be right now.

I was talking to someone this moring and he was telling me about a set of Edel 245's on a 346 making 480 and not loosing anything down low," made beans everywhere" is the quote and the TFS have been proven by Vengeance to hit the 500 mark so you have a few choices. The nice thing wbout the Edels is they will take you stock rocker and valve covers where the TFS need an aftermarket set and spacers iirc?

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If you swap them, then AFR's. Like 99blancoSS, I have a set of Tony's massaged heads on my workbench right now that will replace my Dart 205's. Here's one other option, contact Bret Bauer who knows how to make the Darts really perform. This may be another option for you since you already have the heads.
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^^^ good advice, honestly they are very good head already.
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Well...if your really on a budget and want flow as good if not better I would say....a pair of L92's, they are just as good as the AFR heads and can be had for cheap!
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TEA should also be mentioned. They have a great line of heads. I personally went with the TFS 215cc's and am very happy.
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I am getting TFS 225 for my goat in a few weeks. But if I were you I would just have the darts you got ported and they would be just as good as AFR/TFS.
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From what I have seen getting my heads hand ported will cost me more (with what i already have in them) than trick flows. How much will they cost? How many places are there? Do they CNC or Hand port? Any idea how well they perform? Also, I have heard of a lot of ported Dart heads smokin really bad (just ported ones)
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
stock rocker and valve covers where the TFS need an aftermarket set and spacers iirc?
The TFS heads do not need spacers, and any head (GM included) with bronze guides will suffer from premature guide wear if using stock rockers, this is why TFS calls for roller rockers.
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thrickflow's or ETP
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Livernois Motorsports LS6 Stg II Heads gets my vote !!
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Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
The TFS heads do not need spacers, and any head (GM included) with bronze guides will suffer from premature guide wear if using stock rockers, this is why TFS calls for roller rockers.
Couldn't agree more, but a lot of guys just bolt them in (stock or roller) and don't check the width of the wipe pattern either.
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Originally Posted by FireChicken02
From what I have seen getting my heads hand ported will cost me more (with what i already have in them) than trick flows. How much will they cost? How many places are there? Do they CNC or Hand port? Any idea how well they perform? Also, I have heard of a lot of ported Dart heads smokin really bad (just ported ones)
I know two guys running Brett Bauer ported Darts and they are awesome Gotta pay to play though. Getting yours ported would still be cheaper than a new set of TFS, AFR etc..
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Aren't those 799 heads? NOT 243?
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Yes we have both 799 & 243 castings in stock. I built the first set out of 799s just incase I killed one testing!! Everyonce in a while I'll screw up posting a file & kill a head. I killed a 5.3l a few weeks ago testing

I personally like the 799 castings, they clean up nicer than a 243 casting IMHO!
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Originally Posted by Jason 98 TA
Yes we have both 799 & 243 castings in stock. I built the first set out of 799s just incase I killed one testing!! Everyonce in a while I'll screw up posting a file & kill a head. I killed a 5.3l a few weeks ago testing

I personally like the 799 castings, they clean up nicer than a 243 casting IMHO!
If I was to order these heads can I request 243 castings?




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