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Old 09-10-2003, 12:06 AM
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I'm glad your not taking my post as a slam to you.. Do me a favor and TTT the thread on Norcal that has the dyno graph since I can't find it.. I'm waiting to see another dyno with the A/F fixed and then track times. I'm hoping to have my TR224 in with in the next month. We'll see how it does..
Unfortunately, the graph has not been posted on Norcal. I think he was having trouble posting...or uploading...or something. I'm not sure where the dyno is online...I just know it's out there. Bowtieman will be able to tell you for sure. I'm not sure if he'll be doing another dyno till after a few other mods....he's already done YellowTerra's since then & had Reboot do a base tune...so the A/F should be pretty close now.
Which TR224 did you get? The 112 or 114?
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114.. Sounds like he might have 1 or 2 more mods than myself. (YT's so far).. It should be a decent comparison I think..
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FYI,
He ran 111MPH at SacRaceway before the exhaust, pulley, LS6 intake, cam, & valvetrain.
That Boy's an Ex-Chp & swears he can drive...& he can...for a lefty.

The cam you have, & the cam he has both have the exact same overlap @.050 lift....therefore *theoretically* you both should have the same torque output given the same mods & VE's....but his VE's are vasty different then the TR cam you have. & that's were he has an advantage IMO.
But....it should still be a good race. Let me know when it is & I'll be there!
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Will do.. With a lid, MAF ends, no cats and hooker aeromax muffler I've gone through sacs traps at 13.0/110mph on a 2.2x 60. Should be a good race.
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The cam you have, & the cam he has both have the exact same overlap @.050 lift....therefore *theoretically* you both should have the same torque output given the same mods & VE's....but his VE's are vasty different then the TR cam you have. & that's were he has an advantage IMO.
But....it should still be a good race. Let me know when it is & I'll be there!
I've heard a lot about these "perfect" valve events. What ICL and ECL did you choose for that 220 cam? I can calculate the rest. Just curious how different they really are.
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Elgin has race proven cams and he really does create his own lobes.
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Elgin has race proven cams and he really does create his own lobes.
Are you sure?? He could tell you that just like TR tells you that they use their own lobes.. How can you be sure Deema just doesn't use a comp lobe.. He is a small shop just like TR.. You see the point I'm getting at?

You say a small shop can't produce as good of results as comp. I just proved you wrong with the Elgin example. TR has many proven cams as well, so does LG, and Cartek and many other sponsors on this board. Why is it sooo hard to believe TR uses their own lobes. If Deema does it, why can't TR?

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The cam you have, & the cam he has both have the exact same overlap @.050 lift....therefore *theoretically* you both should have the same torque output given the same mods & VE's....but his VE's are vasty different then the TR cam you have. & that's were he has an advantage IMO.
But....it should still be a good race. Let me know when it is & I'll be there!
I've heard a lot about these "perfect" valve events. What ICL and ECL did you choose for that 220 cam? I can calculate the rest. Just curious how different they really are.
That cam was ground 'straight up'....& installed that way as well. Simple yet effective VE's while letting the lobes do the rest.
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Bringing this back to life.... How are these special cams doing now?

395 hp isnt that impressive, how does it run when its right?

Ive made 395 hp with a 6 year old Lunati B1 cam only, no ported TB, full belts, no tricks stock everything except for lid/headers/pulley/cam. Making 395 hp at 6100-6400 isnt that hard its making torque where you need it 4300-6400) that is. Some othercams that have made 395+- 4 hp on same dyno: TR224 112/114, XE224, XE-R224/112, FMS 224/230/112, 221/221/114 Lunati. For example though, the 224/230 killed the B1 from 1500-6000 then they met.

On auto cars, had a 230/224 true duals/all boltons, and another one of my 226/226 cams/boltons loudmouth, and the 226/226 killed it up to about 6100. That car didnt have a pulley at the time, and it later gained another 14 hp with that and some more tuning

93 Pony, I fully agree with you on your lobe design intake vs exhaust, Ive run mild exhaust lobes for a while with no power loss, and easier on valvetrain.
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any updates on this?? ttt for an old post
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I'm getting ready to run the TR224/114 through stock manifolds and cats, I'll post up when I have track times.



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