TVWilkes

Yea, I do know, that is why is said the work was never performed in a garage. I only performed the hand finishing to your cylinder heads, not the rest of the work. Actually not going to name where some of the other work (valve jobs) was performed that did cause PRC to bring the work in-house. At that time the CNC work was performed somewhere else. This caused delays in shipping products. The SAM grad you speak of sucked something bad. He did not last to long, and had nothing to due with the success of PRC. The success of PRC was/is the consistent hard work that Jason, I and the current crew that work there put in. I agree since now that all of the work is performed in-house there is better quality control. Your story is part correct, but hey allot of things changed for the better over the last 4 years. All of that old stuff has nothing to due with the current products sold by PRC.

PREDATOR-Z

Well I do not keep data logged on all that happens, Back when that SAM grad. was brought on board, you guys were full of praise (guess it didn't work out). So you are Terry from Racetech, you must have been overwhelmed not to notice one water passage blocked to the size of a nail hole (got to play with the grinder),the deep nicks on the gasket surface that I had to mill .01 to straighten out and the Tit. retainer lodged in the intake runner.
As I said that is long ago and you guys doing much much better nowadays.
So mostly what I said is correct and PRC did not start at TSP in-house from day 1.

All that is gone history, your heads are night and day compared to those times.
Yet one thing still remains the same, you guys still get upset if anyone (like me) questions or ask questions about this or that when you guys get on a new product launch bandwagon.

Basicaly this is our experience between myself and TSP and why I give input from my experience and not just take eveything for granted.

As I said I have no ill feelings or issues with you guys, just over the years, just like yourselves, my experience has grown in LSx products and sometimes I know what could be potential hazard or not such good practice.

TVWilkes

Predator-Z,
I'm not sure about all of that. Like I said I didn't perform all of the work. 4 years is a long time to remember, But that is a far cry from today.

PREDATOR-Z

I know Terry, you guys do awsome work for the price. LS community is lucky to have dedicated poeple like TSP and yourself.
We both know it is a tuff business as well. I wish to meet all of you one day, maybe in person all smoke will clear and we all would enjoy our gearhead company.
I'm from Houston BTW (my mom is)

TVWilkes

That sounds good Predator-Z. You and your family and the Texas area people is in my prayers.

PREDATOR-Z

Yeah, they have been busy boarding for 2 days now.

z28poweredlt1

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Heres another pic, this one of the head itself.



I still haven't taken the otherside valve cover off yet, probably gonna start ripping the heads off this weekend.

jocko

i've been dealing with matt at tsp the last couple of days,so far he's put up with my crap and i gotta say they're great people to deal with plus all my boys said to use them based on their experience.

DrkPhx

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Jon - Normally I would agree with this statement about sticking to a warranty. But if this was a known issue at the time and you changed the port design as a direct result, I would think TSP would make an exception by at least taking these heads back for inspection. A special one-time customer accommodation would go a long way toward customer satisfaction as well. Of course, that's up to you and TSP.

Mssingkid

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::Sigh:: Sorry but not trying to , but I recently pulled my motor and had the rocker pedestal broken on my PRC Stage 1 heads. My pic's look just like z28poweredlt1's.


z28poweredlt1, best of luck with your car. Not really sure where i'm going to go from here...

Full-Force

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TSP should atleast sell you a new set of heads for cost of materials only. You can sell your junk heads for a few bucks even if just for the scrap aluminum.

TSP should only charge you for parts. All machining and labor should be on them IMO.

I bet if it were a Patriot head you would have already had a new set of complete heads, seriously.

silverbeast

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If it were me i would go ahead and get a set of TFS heads. They are the cream of the crop right now.

z28poweredlt1

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Sorry I forgot to update this thread. The car had new TSP stage 2.5, 5.3 heads. Runs great after a new tune! Can't really tell a whole lot of power difference up or down. I've been riding the motocycle lately so this thing feels slower than a pig!

DGageSS

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was there any difference on the dyno??

z28poweredlt1

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Haven't put it back on the dyno yet. I'm trying to find a little gas saver locally so I wanna save a little change. I'll get in on the dyno eventually though.

KB99WS6

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Huh, why in the world would he carry over 3+ year old springs instead of just replacing them while everything is apart?

knappbunch

tfs dumdumdum.

69_YENKO

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I've never had any trouble at all with TSP, they used to be the closet shop to me before i move so they saw a lot of my business. I know they've had there issues here and there but most any shop thats been around over the years and does the volume of sale that they do will.

I was one of the very first to get a set of the 2.5 5.3's when they came out, that was at the point when they were trying to get everything setup in-house and get there 5-axis put in. due to the in between a local race shop in Lubbock was out sourced to do mine, I know who, you can PM me if you want.