Some say that a rebuild will not fix the problem?
Thread Starter
TECH Apprentice
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 336
Likes: 0
From: Aub, Fl
Some say that a rebuild will not fix the problem? Okay, I added Mac's a month or so ago and ever since it has been smoking and drinking oil, it never before used any oil, I even wen't to NC and back last summer and racked up 1,400 miles with NO consumption whatseoever, the headers wen't on and then bam like that it drinks oil and smokes at WOT never at start up or idle or even driving but only at WOT and it is drinking about 1 quart per 1,000 miles give or take depending on driving habits, some say that they rebuilt their motors and it still consumed oil and smoked, all I wan't is to know how to correct the problem if that is at all possible? <img border="0" alt="[bang head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" />
<small>[ February 10, 2003, 02:24 PM: Message edited by: LS1JAY ]</small>
<small>[ February 10, 2003, 02:24 PM: Message edited by: LS1JAY ]</small>
Thread Starter
TECH Apprentice
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 336
Likes: 0
From: Aub, Fl
Re: Some say that a rebuild will not fix the problem? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Viper:
<strong> Talk to JPR; he can build an engine that won't burn oil after a rebuild. Mine doesn't. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Were you having oil consumption and smoking before the rebuid?
<strong> Talk to JPR; he can build an engine that won't burn oil after a rebuild. Mine doesn't. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Were you having oil consumption and smoking before the rebuid?
Thread Starter
TECH Apprentice
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 336
Likes: 0
From: Aub, Fl
Re: Some say that a rebuild will not fix the problem? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Viper:
<strong> Bigtime at 36K on the motor. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Did he say what the problem was? I e-mailed Joe last night and he replied back right away, seems like a really nice guy! any info you can give me would be greatly appreciated!
TIA, Jay
<strong> Bigtime at 36K on the motor. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Did he say what the problem was? I e-mailed Joe last night and he replied back right away, seems like a really nice guy! any info you can give me would be greatly appreciated!
TIA, Jay
Re: Some say that a rebuild will not fix the problem? what year is your car? i've been told the 01's consume more oil then others due to the new(junk)rings.i dont know if this is really true but my 01 and my two buds 01's consume a quart of oil every 1,200 miles.i have the macs and my car dont smoke at all. me and one of my buds have both had our motors blow.we have both called a.r.e. goodluck with your problem.
Thread Starter
TECH Apprentice
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 336
Likes: 0
From: Aub, Fl
Re: Some say that a rebuild will not fix the problem? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by mike c.:
<strong> what year is your car? i've been told the 01's consume more oil then others due to the new(junk)rings.i dont know if this is really true but my 01 and my two buds 01's consume a quart of oil every 1,200 miles.i have the macs and my car dont smoke at all. me and one of my buds have both had our motors blow.we have both called a.r.e. goodluck with your problem. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Mine is a '99 and it never consumed oil or smoked until the headers wen't on.
<strong> what year is your car? i've been told the 01's consume more oil then others due to the new(junk)rings.i dont know if this is really true but my 01 and my two buds 01's consume a quart of oil every 1,200 miles.i have the macs and my car dont smoke at all. me and one of my buds have both had our motors blow.we have both called a.r.e. goodluck with your problem. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Mine is a '99 and it never consumed oil or smoked until the headers wen't on.
Trending Topics
LS1 Tech Stories
The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them
Pouria Savadkouei
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked
Pouria Savadkouei
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP
Verdad Gallardo
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes
Verdad Gallardo
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power
Verdad Gallardo
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die
Verdad Gallardo
Re: Some say that a rebuild will not fix the problem? Do a leakdown test on the engine instead of guessing. It will tell you where the pressure is leaking from and from which cylinders.
I did one and it showed three bad cylinders. All 3 pistons had busted ring lands.
George
I did one and it showed three bad cylinders. All 3 pistons had busted ring lands.
George
Re: Some say that a rebuild will not fix the problem? This may sound silly, did you put the dipstick back in? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Thread Starter
TECH Apprentice
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 336
Likes: 0
From: Aub, Fl
Re: Some say that a rebuild will not fix the problem? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by RED QUASAR:
<strong> This may sound silly, did you put the dipstick back in? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, it's in there because I keep watching the oil go down the stick! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<strong> This may sound silly, did you put the dipstick back in? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, it's in there because I keep watching the oil go down the stick! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Staging Lane
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 98
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles
Re: Some say that a rebuild will not fix the problem? do u guys know what the problem is? I have an 01 with 7000 miles. at 1700 it was a qt low then again at 3000 then again at 4600 after 4600 it started to diesl it has plenty of power but sounds like **** at idle. Its still under warrenty so im going to take it in but if you guys have any ideas it would be greatly appreciated.thanks. oh i didnt have this problem with my 00 with 21000 miles. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
Re: Some say that a rebuild will not fix the problem? I have an '01 that has never had any noticeable oil consumption between changes. Car has 13,500 miles on it now. Broke it in on dino oil, and switched to Mobil 1 10-30 @9000 miles. Never messed with the PCV system at all.
Thread Starter
TECH Apprentice
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 336
Likes: 0
From: Aub, Fl
Re: Some say that a rebuild will not fix the problem? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by BurnOut:
<strong> I have an '01 that has never had any noticeable oil consumption between changes. Car has 13,500 miles on it now. Broke it in on dino oil, and switched to Mobil 1 10-30 @9000 miles. Never messed with the PCV system at all. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Do you have headers? Let me say this... My '99 NEVER had a oil consumption problem at all! I would NEVER have to add oil even between the 5,000-6,000 miles between oil changes (using Amsoil 10W-30) it never smoked any whatsoever either! I added the Macs and it was as if a switch was flipped somewhere, it started smoking and consuming oil within days. The headers did cause this as many have stated the added power found a weak link which appearently was the cheap junk rings that we all have in the LS1. I have no idea why some cars develop this problem after a header install while others do not? my buddy put Macs on his Z-28 at nearly 90,000 miles and it doesn't use a drop of oil or smoke but yet when mine went on at 54,000 it started right away! I am going through atleast 1 quart per 1,000 miles now with no changes other than the headers. No choice now but to re-build a perfectly good running LS1 becasue it smokes at WOT like a freight train, either that or just keep driving it like that.
<img border="0" alt="[shoot]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" /> POS rings!
<strong> I have an '01 that has never had any noticeable oil consumption between changes. Car has 13,500 miles on it now. Broke it in on dino oil, and switched to Mobil 1 10-30 @9000 miles. Never messed with the PCV system at all. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Do you have headers? Let me say this... My '99 NEVER had a oil consumption problem at all! I would NEVER have to add oil even between the 5,000-6,000 miles between oil changes (using Amsoil 10W-30) it never smoked any whatsoever either! I added the Macs and it was as if a switch was flipped somewhere, it started smoking and consuming oil within days. The headers did cause this as many have stated the added power found a weak link which appearently was the cheap junk rings that we all have in the LS1. I have no idea why some cars develop this problem after a header install while others do not? my buddy put Macs on his Z-28 at nearly 90,000 miles and it doesn't use a drop of oil or smoke but yet when mine went on at 54,000 it started right away! I am going through atleast 1 quart per 1,000 miles now with no changes other than the headers. No choice now but to re-build a perfectly good running LS1 becasue it smokes at WOT like a freight train, either that or just keep driving it like that.
<img border="0" alt="[shoot]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_guns.gif" /> POS rings!
Re: Some say that a rebuild will not fix the problem? LS1JAY- no, the car doesn't have headers (yet <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> ), so it's difficult for me to make a direct comparison.
If I were you, before I tore the motor down I'd put a LOT of work into the PCV system, though... LS6 PCV valve, catch can, whatever; it's a hell of a lot easier and cheaper than a rebuild.
If I were you, before I tore the motor down I'd put a LOT of work into the PCV system, though... LS6 PCV valve, catch can, whatever; it's a hell of a lot easier and cheaper than a rebuild.
Thread Starter
TECH Apprentice
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 336
Likes: 0
From: Aub, Fl
Re: Some say that a rebuild will not fix the problem? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by BurnOut:
<strong> If I were you, before I tore the motor down I'd put a LOT of work into the PCV system, though... LS6 PCV valve, catch can, whatever; it's a hell of a lot easier and cheaper than a rebuild. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I already have, I have the new PCV valve and a GReddy catch can, it is catching oil but no where as much as is dissapearing plus it still smokes so that was not the total fix but it was about 10% of the problem.
<strong> If I were you, before I tore the motor down I'd put a LOT of work into the PCV system, though... LS6 PCV valve, catch can, whatever; it's a hell of a lot easier and cheaper than a rebuild. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I already have, I have the new PCV valve and a GReddy catch can, it is catching oil but no where as much as is dissapearing plus it still smokes so that was not the total fix but it was about 10% of the problem.
On The Tree
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 194
Likes: 0
From: Birmingham, AL
Re: Some say that a rebuild will not fix the problem? I also have those headers and also notice smoke at WOT...do you have the OYP or cats? also I've not noticed a drop in my oil level yet but then again i've had them for a week so I guess I'll be checking often
Thread Starter
TECH Apprentice
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 336
Likes: 0
From: Aub, Fl
Re: Some say that a rebuild will not fix the problem? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by m_donze:
<strong> I also have those headers and also notice smoke at WOT...do you have the OYP or cats? also I've not noticed a drop in my oil level yet but then again i've had them for a week so I guess I'll be checking often </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have been taking it easy for a couple of days but yesterday I decided to get on it from a 30 mph roll, it downshifted to 1st and smoked like crazy it then shifted and it let up but as the RPM's climbed it started to smoke like crazy again, it's getting worse, I'm either fixing to have it re-built or I'm getting rid of the car! I really wan't to keep it but a few have said that a re-build did not cure the proble, I don't see how unless something was not done right during the re-build? a re-built motor should be better than new even. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
<strong> I also have those headers and also notice smoke at WOT...do you have the OYP or cats? also I've not noticed a drop in my oil level yet but then again i've had them for a week so I guess I'll be checking often </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have been taking it easy for a couple of days but yesterday I decided to get on it from a 30 mph roll, it downshifted to 1st and smoked like crazy it then shifted and it let up but as the RPM's climbed it started to smoke like crazy again, it's getting worse, I'm either fixing to have it re-built or I'm getting rid of the car! I really wan't to keep it but a few have said that a re-build did not cure the proble, I don't see how unless something was not done right during the re-build? a re-built motor should be better than new even. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
Re: Some say that a rebuild will not fix the problem? I don't see how a rebuild won't cure the problem. It could be just plain ole coincidence that at the time you installed your headers you began having oil consumption issues. Rebuild it, I bet it won't smoke anymore!