Looking @ AFR, PRC Terminators.....
Back to the original post.... I would HIGHLY encourage you to look at the TFS heads. These heads have proven themselves time and time again and broken records all over the world.. Track AND dyno.... If budget is a concern check out the "As Cast" option Trickflow has available.
Just a few benefits of a TrickFlow head ..... Thick Deck surfaces (Very important in boosted/nitrous applications) Thicker Rocker Bosses, no over porting the intake runners and breaking the rocker bosses with a TFS head... 300+CFM even with the as cast head.. Dual Spring kit rated to .650 lift...13.5* Valve angles for increased mid lift flow... Customer service that cant be matched in the industry when dealing with TrickFlow....
Just a few benefits of a TrickFlow head ..... Thick Deck surfaces (Very important in boosted/nitrous applications) Thicker Rocker Bosses, no over porting the intake runners and breaking the rocker bosses with a TFS head... 300+CFM even with the as cast head.. Dual Spring kit rated to .650 lift...13.5* Valve angles for increased mid lift flow... Customer service that cant be matched in the industry when dealing with TrickFlow....
than enough for my plans, and i dont plan on running boost, thats why i'm selling my D1SC kit and GTP S2 LQ9 heads, so i'm not too concerned about
deck thickness since i will be using ARP head studs. But i know the TFS's are
a DAMN good head...if money wasn't an option i would have looked into them.
That being said thank you for your post about the TFS heads.
Wow we sold hundreds of sets in the first 2 weeks? I doubt anyone here buys that anybody told you that. That's something like 14 sets a day!?!?!
Here's what I can tell you, that statement is completely false. I know for a fact nobody claimed to have sold hundreds of termys from our shop. Thats rediculous.
I don't think I need to backup my mouth, a search will show you good results from the termys heads.
Bash me all you want, most guys in this thread agree the termys worked very well.
Here's what I can tell you, that statement is completely false. I know for a fact nobody claimed to have sold hundreds of termys from our shop. Thats rediculous.
I don't think I need to backup my mouth, a search will show you good results from the termys heads.
Bash me all you want, most guys in this thread agree the termys worked very well.
or Texas Speed, or the Term. heads do not deserve to be bashed. You guys
are still at the top of my list to build my 427 LS7 in the future. You guys also have great customer service.
I can appreciate the TFS heads, but the AFR's also flow 300cfm which is more
than enough for my plans, and i dont plan on running boost, thats why i'm selling my D1SC kit and GTP S2 LQ9 heads, so i'm not too concerned about
deck thickness since i will be using ARP head studs. But i know the TFS's are
a DAMN good head...if money wasn't an option i would have looked into them.
That being said thank you for your post about the TFS heads.
than enough for my plans, and i dont plan on running boost, thats why i'm selling my D1SC kit and GTP S2 LQ9 heads, so i'm not too concerned about
deck thickness since i will be using ARP head studs. But i know the TFS's are
a DAMN good head...if money wasn't an option i would have looked into them.
That being said thank you for your post about the TFS heads.
Glad to help. I just wanted to give you another option... TFS As Cast @ 1899.00 is less expensive than AFR and many others out there....
I think we all know you will be very pleased with the AFR's proven performance as well as our total commitment to customer service which we emphasize just as much....if your pocket book allows, you cant go wrong with any AFR product.
I will be at both tradeshows this years as well (SEMA and PRI)....if you havent taken the plunge yet make sure you stop by and visit....and if you have taken the plunge stop by and visit anyway....LOL
It would be nice to put the screen name to the face!
Regards,
Tony
I will be at both tradeshows this years as well (SEMA and PRI)....if you havent taken the plunge yet make sure you stop by and visit....and if you have taken the plunge stop by and visit anyway....LOL
It would be nice to put the screen name to the face!
Regards,
Tony
Last edited by Tony Mamo @ AFR; Sep 16, 2008 at 09:43 PM.
Thanks Tony i hope i can make it out to SEMA...To get the AFR 205's and all the
other mods i will need to sell the D1SC kit and GTP LQ9 heads. It's a tuff decision to
sell the blower cause i love FI, but installing a well thought out n/a setup can be almost
as fun
So the parts list i'm looking at are:
1. AFR 205's
2. Predator-Z spec'd 218/224 .604/.609 113lsa +1 cam
3. Shaner ported TB
4. SLP lid w/Holley filter
5. ATI balancer
6. 180* stat. if HyperTech still make them
7. SuperMaxx stainless headers
8. Vig.3200
9. Either SLP's new PowerFlo catback or Magnaflow
10. EFI-Live tuner
And other little odds and ends. I honestly believe this setup will be awesome in the street but still hold it's own at the track.
other mods i will need to sell the D1SC kit and GTP LQ9 heads. It's a tuff decision to
sell the blower cause i love FI, but installing a well thought out n/a setup can be almost
as fun
So the parts list i'm looking at are:1. AFR 205's
2. Predator-Z spec'd 218/224 .604/.609 113lsa +1 cam
3. Shaner ported TB
4. SLP lid w/Holley filter
5. ATI balancer
6. 180* stat. if HyperTech still make them
7. SuperMaxx stainless headers
8. Vig.3200
9. Either SLP's new PowerFlo catback or Magnaflow
10. EFI-Live tuner
And other little odds and ends. I honestly believe this setup will be awesome in the street but still hold it's own at the track.
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Thanks Tony i hope i can make it out to SEMA...To get the AFR 205's and all the
other mods i will need to sell the D1SC kit and GTP LQ9 heads. It's a tuff decision to
sell the blower cause i love FI, but installing a well thought out n/a setup can be almost
as fun So the parts list i'm looking at are:
1. AFR 205's
2. Predator-Z spec'd 218/224 .604/.609 113lsa +1 cam
3. Shaner ported TB
4. SLP lid w/Holley filter
5. ATI balancer
6. 180* stat. if HyperTech still make them
7. SuperMaxx stainless headers
8. Vig.3200
9. Either SLP's new PowerFlo catback or Magnaflow
10. EFI-Live tuner
And other little odds and ends. I honestly believe this setup will be awesome in the street but still hold it's own at the track.
other mods i will need to sell the D1SC kit and GTP LQ9 heads. It's a tuff decision to
sell the blower cause i love FI, but installing a well thought out n/a setup can be almost
as fun
So the parts list i'm looking at are:1. AFR 205's
2. Predator-Z spec'd 218/224 .604/.609 113lsa +1 cam
3. Shaner ported TB
4. SLP lid w/Holley filter
5. ATI balancer
6. 180* stat. if HyperTech still make them
7. SuperMaxx stainless headers
8. Vig.3200
9. Either SLP's new PowerFlo catback or Magnaflow
10. EFI-Live tuner
And other little odds and ends. I honestly believe this setup will be awesome in the street but still hold it's own at the track.
See you at SEMA!
Tony
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Lean on the cam a little more....add a ported FAST 92/90 and you just made 40 more RWHP while still retaining perfect drivability. Copy my former 346 package as much as you can afford to....Ive done all the research for you....you just need to figure out a way to finance it.
See you at SEMA!
Tony
See you at SEMA!
Tony
I put that same cam on a LS2 with AFR 205s and the results were 475rwhp/423rwtq (C6 vette 2005), the guy killed Z06s at the 1/8 mile
That was a duplicate of a heavy LUMINA SS (kinda like a 4 door GTO) 478/426
Last edited by PREDATOR-Z; Sep 17, 2008 at 02:03 AM.
Thats true Tony...Predator-Z did suggest the 224/228 cam then i told him i wanted
something around 218 duration or go with the old B1 cam....But i LOVE the cam he picked
for me...it should make some serious cylinder pressure and be torquey as hell. Perfect
for the street As far as the FAST 92/92 i'm not 100% sold on it...i rather use the money
to go towards the AFR 205's and the SuperMaxx headers and a catback. But i appreciate
your input about the FAST...maybe after i get the mods and tuning done i'll save up
and look into the FAST or maybe the Street Warrior intake if it ever comes out..lol.
something around 218 duration or go with the old B1 cam....But i LOVE the cam he picked
for me...it should make some serious cylinder pressure and be torquey as hell. Perfect
for the street
As far as the FAST 92/92 i'm not 100% sold on it...i rather use the moneyto go towards the AFR 205's and the SuperMaxx headers and a catback. But i appreciate
your input about the FAST...maybe after i get the mods and tuning done i'll save up
and look into the FAST or maybe the Street Warrior intake if it ever comes out..lol.
He runs the MS3 and the Termi heads funny how with a 175 shot only 25 more than you and that he runs at a DA of 7000+ he ran almost the same ET as your 408 with a 150 shot. 10.45@130
Staging Lane
Joined: Jul 2008
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From: Denver, CO
224-228 cams are the best daily driver cams imo.
AFR, TFS etc. shouldn't be used in the same sentence as PRC or Terminator. They are quality heads that are proven to perform. Neither can be said for PRC or Terminator.
AFR, TFS etc. shouldn't be used in the same sentence as PRC or Terminator. They are quality heads that are proven to perform. Neither can be said for PRC or Terminator.
Launching!
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 277
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From: Town near you
Is this your personal opinion? Why shouldn't the PRC name be mentioned in the same breath? The PRC line of heads are very proven to be quality and they perform. The only issue was years ago when the LS6 castings were thin. That has been changed. The current PRC line of cylinder heads perform on par with any brand. Just because the AFR,TFS ect... cost more doesn't mean quality. If you want PRC to sell for a little more then wait on the aftermarket PRC215 heads.
I don't find it funny at all. That car didn't run very good when I owned it since it was so heavy.
Just by simple math if the head flows the right amount of air to run a certain cam
and supporting mods the heads will perform...just cause ever Tom , Dick and Harry doesn't
have the Terms. doesn't mean they aren't good. They just weren't over marketed like
other heads. But thats what atracted me to them, the fact that everyone doesn't
run them. And since Edelbrock casted them they obviously aren't made shitty so they
are a good option. But despite everything I have to go with the pros like Tony from AFR, and Predator-Z, and other shops i'm going with the AFR 205's. Its a safe choice plus
their performance can be proven time and time again.
and supporting mods the heads will perform...just cause ever Tom , Dick and Harry doesn't
have the Terms. doesn't mean they aren't good. They just weren't over marketed like
other heads. But thats what atracted me to them, the fact that everyone doesn't
run them. And since Edelbrock casted them they obviously aren't made shitty so they
are a good option. But despite everything I have to go with the pros like Tony from AFR, and Predator-Z, and other shops i'm going with the AFR 205's. Its a safe choice plus
their performance can be proven time and time again.
setups. If they didn't they wouldn't be in business...you're just quoting your
opinion, not fact.
Just by simple math if the head flows the right amount of air to run a certain cam
and supporting mods the heads will perform...just cause ever Tom , Dick and Harry doesn't
have the Terms. doesn't mean they aren't good. They just weren't over marketed like
other heads. But thats what atracted me to them, the fact that everyone doesn't
run them.
and supporting mods the heads will perform...just cause ever Tom , Dick and Harry doesn't
have the Terms. doesn't mean they aren't good. They just weren't over marketed like
other heads. But thats what atracted me to them, the fact that everyone doesn't
run them.
You are incorrect about this and thats all I will say.