To reverse split or not?
Yeah I think phoenix1987 nailed it by basically saying that thats another doofus caught up in the marketing, I saw the polluter add, to me its another cam drawing people in with big power numbers and all wrong for a street car.
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If it makes the torque down low, and also makes the numbers up high what makes it so wrong for a street car? I'm just asking a question.
I honestly think it sounds like the OP needs a 224/224 since that is the good ol ls1tech standby
I honestly think it sounds like the OP needs a 224/224 since that is the good ol ls1tech standby
that's just it,it won't make good TQ down low..and a 224 would be more in line with what the OP wants..
OP I have been looking at 228ish duration cams for my daily, seems to be the new 224, meaning the 224 was the way to go for a long time for good overall power but it seems alot of people are going up to 228-230 and still getting good results. I would think a high 22x and around a 114 would be good for you but that wont give you that ground shaking idle so much. I am trying to find what you are also, a broad power nasty idle cam that is still efficient for daily driving, I havent necessarily found the magic antidote yet though so bump for more on this.
I was just saying, according to all the hype on that polluter it will make bigger numbers under the curve than the cam sizes he is considering and then just keep going up from there. Thats what it is right now though, hype....
If a TR224 is too small, go for a 228.
What about something like this? I'm just throwing this out there but it sounds like what you're wanting
Thunder Racing Custom Camshaft
"Reverse Split" - 230/224 .575/.563 111 LSA 2200-6800 RPM Power Band. Excellent mid-range & high RPM power. Automatic cars require computer tuning and it is recommend for optimum results on manual transmission cars . Due to the fast ramp rate of this camshaft, the use of 1.8 rockers is not recommended.
With a 111 LSA it would definitely idle mean but give the powerband you want.
If a TR224 is too small, go for a 228.
What about something like this? I'm just throwing this out there but it sounds like what you're wanting
Thunder Racing Custom Camshaft
"Reverse Split" - 230/224 .575/.563 111 LSA 2200-6800 RPM Power Band. Excellent mid-range & high RPM power. Automatic cars require computer tuning and it is recommend for optimum results on manual transmission cars . Due to the fast ramp rate of this camshaft, the use of 1.8 rockers is not recommended.
With a 111 LSA it would definitely idle mean but give the powerband you want.
I was just saying, according to all the hype on that polluter it will make bigger numbers under the curve than the cam sizes he is considering and then just keep going up from there. Thats what it is right now though, hype....
If a TR224 is too small, go for a 228.
What about something like this? I'm just throwing this out there but it sounds like what you're wanting
Thunder Racing Custom Camshaft
"Reverse Split" - 230/224 .575/.563 111 LSA 2200-6800 RPM Power Band. Excellent mid-range & high RPM power. Automatic cars require computer tuning and it is recommend for optimum results on manual transmission cars . Due to the fast ramp rate of this camshaft, the use of 1.8 rockers is not recommended.
With a 111 LSA it would definitely idle mean but give the powerband you want.
If a TR224 is too small, go for a 228.
What about something like this? I'm just throwing this out there but it sounds like what you're wanting
Thunder Racing Custom Camshaft
"Reverse Split" - 230/224 .575/.563 111 LSA 2200-6800 RPM Power Band. Excellent mid-range & high RPM power. Automatic cars require computer tuning and it is recommend for optimum results on manual transmission cars . Due to the fast ramp rate of this camshaft, the use of 1.8 rockers is not recommended.
With a 111 LSA it would definitely idle mean but give the powerband you want.
You are right about it making big numbers yes, but also thats at WOT, we are more referring to the sacrifice of part throttle drivability and low end grunt at part throttle.
I understand that. I'm going off of what the drivers of that cam are saying and having no issues at cruising/part throttle....I mean if what they're saying is true, why couldn't it be one of the better choices for all around performance. IF what they're saying is 100% true and it does have the off idle/under the curve response everyone is saying they do.
I'm just stirring up conversation at work and answering back of the mind questions at the same time. Lots of variables.....if you haven't noticed, I'm also bringing to life things that were more along the lines of his original idea camshafts too....just playing devils advocate.
I'm just stirring up conversation at work and answering back of the mind questions at the same time. Lots of variables.....if you haven't noticed, I'm also bringing to life things that were more along the lines of his original idea camshafts too....just playing devils advocate.
Tr230/224 111 i had the cam TR230/224 111. i tried to compress water, the water won!
i have a LS6 crate now, and a new TR230/224 111 is going back in her.
the powerband, the sound. this is prob.. the best cam for starting off with.
you will need a tune with this cam.
i have a LS6 crate now, and a new TR230/224 111 is going back in her.
the powerband, the sound. this is prob.. the best cam for starting off with.
you will need a tune with this cam.
I understand that. I'm going off of what the drivers of that cam are saying and having no issues at cruising/part throttle....I mean if what they're saying is true, why couldn't it be one of the better choices for all around performance. IF what they're saying is 100% true and it does have the off idle/under the curve response everyone is saying they do.
I'm just stirring up conversation at work and answering back of the mind questions at the same time. Lots of variables.....if you haven't noticed, I'm also bringing to life things that were more along the lines of his original idea camshafts too....just playing devils advocate.
I'm just stirring up conversation at work and answering back of the mind questions at the same time. Lots of variables.....if you haven't noticed, I'm also bringing to life things that were more along the lines of his original idea camshafts too....just playing devils advocate.
Post a link, id like to read about it, experiences with the cam that is, not the ad.
Sorry for the thread hijack, on with the show.
The original car with the cam is in there later describing some of the driveability.