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Old 09-26-2008, 08:39 PM
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Default a builder says the tr224-114 is too big for stock???

my car is mostly stock, mods are in my sig, and i want a reliable, "smog-ish" legal cam. this builder told be that the thunder cam seems way too big for what i want (is this true??), but i know everyone here has it and loves it.
he recommended a comp cams xfi rpm "xr265hr"
does anyone else have this comp cam???
i also will be getting longtubes, heads, and fast intake in the future.
here are the specs on it:
http://www.compcams.com/Cam_Specs/Ca...csid=1085&sb=2
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It's a perfect street cam. You should use it with headers to get the best results
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TR 224 is fine. Get it on the 112 LSA and you'll be happier with it.
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maybe you should find a different builder if he says a 224 cam is too big...
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ya, but the 112 wont pass smog, correct??,
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time to find a new builder.
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what do you guys think about that cam, id like to get a comp cuz i can get an AWESOME DEAL through them. any other recommendations?
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comp cams can make a 224r clone very easily....and I would say that cam is not a worthy upgrade.
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its almost not even worth it to swap cams if youre going that small...youll pick up power. Probably make like 360rwp with that cam with bolt ons. id go tr224 on 114
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Originally Posted by KILLER-LS1
ya, but the 112 wont pass smog, correct??,
I'd have to go back and look to see what the magic number is for Cali. The 112 only has 0 degrees of overlap. The 224 on a 114 has -4 degrees of overlap, which I think is that magic number.

Either way, the 224 is not too big.
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+1 on the TR224-112. It sounds very good, pulls hard and tunes easily. Not sure on smog myself, however, I have read many posts where people claimed it passes. Gotta love NE Nevada. No smog checks, no cats, no problem.

Anyway, it is a very good cam but you really need headers if you can get away with them. Pretty obvious why your buider wants you to buy Comp. They build some good ones too, though.

Good luck!
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tr224 114. great all around cam. makes power very evenly across the board.
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great cam. its what i have and i passed smog. torque curve is as flat as a table all the way to 6000rpm
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The tr224 is a great all around cam.I looked at the comp hr265hr and thought it was a little small.I went with a custom grind comp 224/224 561/561 @115.I wanted something That would pass smog( L.A. Ca.) not be too hard on the valvetrain and would be a really good daily driver.I was told by my mechanic that I could go up to 228 and still pass smog.It's all in the tune.The tsp224 and the tr224 @114 are both really good cams.You can't go wrong with them.
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the only time i would install a tr224 in anything is if it were a truck, or a DD..they have great driveability, almost like stock. i cant see why a builder would think it is too big...unless he is used to seeing lift #'s from sbc cams. i told my dad the lift on the cam im buying is .600 and he told me it wouldnt be streetable, and would be a track only car. haha. old school.
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I picked up power off idle with my 226 112 patriot camshaft which would be very comparable. A 224 on a 114 would be an excellent choice for a daily driver that will pass smog. If you are considering your builder's reccommendation I would prefer an ls6 camshaft over that one, good luck!
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Originally Posted by Summerwolf
comp cams can make a 224r clone very easily....and I would say that cam is not a worthy upgrade.
The TR224 is not a cloneable cam. It uses proprietary lobes. IT is the best all around cam on the planet. 224r is not the same cam.

Your builder is a little conservative, they say the tr224 114 lsa is the biggest you can go and still pass smog inspection in California. I would not hold against your builder the fact he likes is street cams smaller.
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Originally Posted by KILLER-LS1
ya, but the 112 wont pass smog, correct??,
i live in cali, and anything that has 0 to - #s in overlap will pass smog, if u can get pass visual, i have a gm asa cam 226 236 110 lsa, when my tuner scans it it says 0 to -2 overlap
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You gotta also pay some attention. Here on tech, everyone praises the 224 cam, but if you ask them they say, "I used to have it, but I got rid of it."
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true.I still have it on the 35th.dont intend to get rid of it and go bigger.I have that on the blk one.


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