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Old Oct 31, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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I have an 02 Z06 and I just bought a pair of tf 215cc heads that have been milled down to 59cc. That puts the compression ratio at 11.48. Am I going to be able to run 91 octane gas with this set up? I'm planning going with a mid 230's duration cam. Any help or opinions would be much appretiated!
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Yes you can run regular 91 octane pump gas with 11.4:1 comression with no worries.
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Oops, I just realized I posted this in the gen IV section, supposed to be in the gen III. My bad.
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Yes you can run regular 91 octane pump gas with 11.4:1 comression with no worries.
Thanks, I feel a bit better know!
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Yes you can run regular 91 octane pump gas with 11.4:1 comression with no worries.
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Depends on your cam timing really!
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Yeah, octane needs really depend on cam, design of heads, and other factors, but I think the general consensus is that you will be fine.
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Originally Posted by sublime1996525
I have an 02 Z06 and I just bought a pair of tf 215cc heads that have been milled down to 59cc. That puts the compression ratio at 11.48. Am I going to be able to run 91 octane gas with this set up? I'm planning going with a mid 230's duration cam. Any help or opinions would be much appretiated!
Best thing to do is read up on dynamic compression ratio (DCR):
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...dcr+calculator

You can enter your cam, chamber volume, head gasket thickness, etc. in the spreadsheet. Then adjust your variables so DCR is at or under 8.5 to avoid detonation on pump gas.
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Sweet thanks guys!
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Wow talk about teattering on the threashold. I'm at a DCR of 8.44 or 8.5 depending on head gasket thickness. Unless I go with a bigger cam then I'm in the 8.20's range but I don't want to sacrife too much driveability. Unless I go with the lunati (232/238-599/601 113lsa) then I'm about 8.32. What do you guys think?
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why not just run 93 in the car. your talking 5cent a gallon diff not huge.... not worth the risk in my opion. Now it all depends on your tune how good it is and how much timing is in it... its all in the timing
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Wow talk about teattering on the threashold. I'm at a DCR of 8.44 or 8.5 depending on head gasket thickness. Unless I go with a bigger cam then I'm in the 8.20's range but I don't want to sacrife too much driveability. Unless I go with the lunati (232/238-599/601 113lsa) then I'm about 8.32. What do you guys think?
Well you have a high quality set of heads there, I'll bet you will get good numbers either way. I would go with the smaller cam with higher DCR myself.
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Originally Posted by 1984camaroz28
why not just run 93 in the car. your talking 5cent a gallon diff not huge.... not worth the risk in my opion. Now it all depends on your tune how good it is and how much timing is in it... its all in the timing
I'm in California and there are no places around here that I know of that have 93 octane.
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o ok now i c. Its all in the tune.....
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So as long as I find a good tuner hopefully all will be well!
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With a tight quench (or "squish") dimension, like 0.030" or less, the design of the heads for LS engines, along with the properties of aluminum heads, lets us run at dynamic compression ratios of 8.7 to 1 on 93 octane. You could probably run 91 octane on the same setup by pulling back on the timing a little at WOT.
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With a comp thickness of .054 I'm sitting at an 8.46 dcr which is right about where I want to be. Right?
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Ok I have one more question. Am I going to have any PTV issues with this setup running a 232/234-595/598 112lsa cam?

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Ok I have one more question. Am I going to have any PTV issues with this setup running a 232/242-595/598 112lsa cam?
Why so big on the exhuast? Check out the video in my sig. Thats with the same heads you have a 232/236-646/612@114LSA cam.. No N2o and a full weight 3600lb Camaro with stock bottom end motor. Oh. back to your question. You shouldn't have PTV issues with that cam and the trick flow head. It's built @ 13 degree valve angle.. Again No Worries!!
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That's supposed to be 232/234. I didn't think I'd have any issues but I'm just trying to cover every base.
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