L76 vs FAST 102
I don't defend it because I sell them. There is no money to be made on these here, too many people selling them for basically cost.
I defend it because the ONLY thing people even bother to look at are the dyno numbers, NOBODY takes into consideration the other unique features this manifold and the previous manifolds have.
Everyone gripes and moans about the price but those very same people have no problem buying expensive parts that give you NO horsepower. ooohhhhh look at my $400 billet valve covers... lol
Know what I mean?
I defend it because the ONLY thing people even bother to look at are the dyno numbers, NOBODY takes into consideration the other unique features this manifold and the previous manifolds have.
Everyone gripes and moans about the price but those very same people have no problem buying expensive parts that give you NO horsepower. ooohhhhh look at my $400 billet valve covers... lol
Know what I mean?
Yep, I know what you mean. VA Speed got one to work great on Kevins 'vette but that took a 427 and porting to get the most out of it.
Your right about the dyno numbers, a lot of people are disappointed when they actually get on the track.
A friend of mine up here has a speed shop and it cracks me up when people spend a bunch of money for a lopey idle "I don't car if it makes more power, I just want a nasty lopey idle", that's easy money right there.
Your right about the dyno numbers, a lot of people are disappointed when they actually get on the track.
A friend of mine up here has a speed shop and it cracks me up when people spend a bunch of money for a lopey idle "I don't car if it makes more power, I just want a nasty lopey idle", that's easy money right there.
Guys.... get this 102mm TB out of your head. It takes some serious motor for you to need the 102mm TB on the 102mm intake. A 92mm TB will be fine for 95% of the people on Tech. If you use a 102mm TB when not needed, all it does is slow down the velocity of the air and make tuning more difficult......
The 102mm has ZERO effect on power down low like people tend to assume. This isnt a carburator, it doesnt carry fuel. Its just air, the throttle body is just an air bleed to the plenum. The runners that are in the intake manifold are what create "velocity" to the cylinder, just like an idividual runner intake. The runner length, runner taper, runner diameter, etc is what makes the manifold too big, too small, or just right.
Patrick G and Texas Speed both have posted that when they tested a "professionally" ported LS3 intake that they lost power vs. the stock unported intake.
Last edited by SweetS10V8; Jun 17, 2010 at 07:48 PM.
Well go look up some other shops like LG and Vengeance and see what Lou (5hp/5tq is his number of a stock intake) has to say also, I am pretty sure he has done a few more of these than most people on here, PatrickG included.
One or two vehicles does not make an intake a performer or a loser. There are also several who have shown gains with a ported stock intake and some who say they lost power so just grab that proverbial grain of salt. Each intake has its supporters and detractors people just need honest numbers and that comes from several vehicles not one or two or even 5. You have one on yours but have not dynoed it or taken it to the track. Butt dynos don't get it when people are looking for advise on spending $800.
One or two vehicles does not make an intake a performer or a loser. There are also several who have shown gains with a ported stock intake and some who say they lost power so just grab that proverbial grain of salt. Each intake has its supporters and detractors people just need honest numbers and that comes from several vehicles not one or two or even 5. You have one on yours but have not dynoed it or taken it to the track. Butt dynos don't get it when people are looking for advise on spending $800.
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Before the FAST is was running a really nicely ported L76 intake.
Just my $.02
I said it for YEARS before it came out.....
Thing is a dud.
It's nice looking and in a FEW bigger cubed, bigger powered cars, it has showed some nice gains. But for us stock blocked people..............
4 hours to go!! Bid is low 95mm tb 