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Old 11-09-2010, 08:28 AM
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Default car missing/stumbling above 6,500 rpms...

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Car seems to run strong up to 6,500 rpms. Then, there is a noticeable miss above that.

One of the plug wires seemed a little loose, so I ordered new wires. Not sure why it would only miss above 6,500 rpms with that though.

The miss does not show up on the logs. But again, it is very noticeable at the track.
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Are you hittting the limiter? Fuel pressure dropping?
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Could be Valve float.... what cam and springs do you have?
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Originally Posted by 1lejohn
Are you hittting the limiter? Fuel pressure dropping?
Rev limiter is set at 7,200 rpm.

Don't think it is losing fuel pressure. I will go out and give it a try and see though.
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Originally Posted by SweetS10V8
Could be Valve float.... what cam and springs do you have?
Springs were tested and set for cam by a shop that only works on heads. Brand new heads and valve train from MAST Motorsports.

I have morel limited travel lifters and T & D adjustable rockers. Rocker preload set to specs given by T & D.

Top 3 suspects right now -

1 - Losing spark. Ordered new wires. The current wires are sloppy.

2 - Fuel. Need to check injuector duty cycle, fuel pressure.

3 - Valve float.

Will be too cool if simply changing the plug wires fixes it. But my record would indicate it won't be that easy!
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Are you running a stock tuned PCM?
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Originally Posted by 1lejohn
Are you running a stock tuned PCM?
yes.

I ran same pcm prior to rebuild. I did not have any issues running up to 7,200 rpm's.
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I should have mentioned the car ran fine up to 7,200 rpm prior to rebuild of engine.

New heads, valve train, lifters as well.
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Im still thinking valve float, how much do your valves weigh? T&D rockers are super heavy and casue vavle float with a valvetrain that isnt a good combination. Throw on your stock rockers, if you can, and see if it clears it up.
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Originally Posted by SweetS10V8
Im still thinking valve float, how much do your valves weigh? T&D rockers are super heavy and casue vavle float with a valvetrain that isnt a good combination. Throw on your stock rockers, if you can, and see if it clears it up.
Thank You for the information.

Won't be able to try the stock rockers, they won't work with the limited travel morels. Already tried that before spending the money on the T & D's.
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Originally Posted by 1lejohn
Are you hittting the limiter? Fuel pressure dropping?


Ok - went did a couple of pulls to check fuel. Didn't lose fuel pressure, held in the mid 50's.

I did notice though that the wideband shows it getting very rich when it starts missing. It drops from 12.8 down to 10.8 - 11.2 range.
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Originally Posted by SweetS10V8
Could be Valve float.... what cam and springs do you have?
Spring pressures are as follows -

seated = 193 lbs
open = 460 lbs
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What about battery voltage is it dropping? At higher rpms there is a big load on the elec system. Bad coil or coils , elec connections and grounds
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Strike 1 - new plug wires didn't fix it...



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