Is the mamo ported fast 102 overkill?
03-22-2015, 09:49 AM
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Is the mamo ported fast 102 overkill? I'm debating on going with a stock fast 102 or the mamo ported fast 102
Will it be worth it on my set up? This is the last part I have to order to finish my build it. Here the basic list of mods on the car Goal is 500+ whp Also will porting the fast 102 hurt the power down low?
Stock ls2 bottom end
Tfs 225 heads
Btr Cam stage 4 specs are 235/242 .621"/.592" 111+3
Nw 102 tb
Kooks stepped header
Du speed cold air
Slp crank pulley
Thanks for any input
Will it be worth it on my set up? This is the last part I have to order to finish my build it. Here the basic list of mods on the car Goal is 500+ whp Also will porting the fast 102 hurt the power down low?
Stock ls2 bottom end
Tfs 225 heads
Btr Cam stage 4 specs are 235/242 .621"/.592" 111+3
Nw 102 tb
Kooks stepped header
Du speed cold air
Slp crank pulley
Thanks for any input
03-22-2015, 10:03 AM
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Seems like you want to do well by the parts you already have chosen. I say send the manifold to him and let him work his magic. He just don't spend 30 minutes with a dremel doing work. It takes him roughly 12 hours to get the manifold to his satisfaction. That tells me that it's really been worked on.....
03-22-2015, 11:07 AM
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Seems like you want to do well by the parts you already have chosen. I say send the manifold to him and let him work his magic. He just don't spend 30 minutes with a dremel doing work. It takes him roughly 12 hours to get the manifold to his satisfaction. That tells me that it's really been worked on.....
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Shooting for 500 RWHP W/ stock LS2 displacement you can't leave
Those horses on the table! Not porting the FAST on your build
Worth 10-12 maybe as much as 15. Tony ported my Fast 92
and LS2 TB for my bolt-on 99 C5 6 years ago, and I am still very happy with it.
In fact I also had Tony port a FAST LS3 for my big bore TFS build
and will have him MAMOFY the Race-Runners as soon as they are
Available.
Go with Tony and you will have NO REGRETS!
Those horses on the table! Not porting the FAST on your build
Worth 10-12 maybe as much as 15. Tony ported my Fast 92
and LS2 TB for my bolt-on 99 C5 6 years ago, and I am still very happy with it.
In fact I also had Tony port a FAST LS3 for my big bore TFS build
and will have him MAMOFY the Race-Runners as soon as they are
Available.
Go with Tony and you will have NO REGRETS!
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03-22-2015, 12:46 PM
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Waiting for tony response I'll be pulling the trigger on one. I feel like I lost my mind on all the money I spent on a na build lol. Anyone see a reason it won't make 500?
Gto m6 with al one piece ds n monster stage 3 clutch
Gto m6 with al one piece ds n monster stage 3 clutch
03-22-2015, 01:56 PM
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/1262960-what-does-take-optimize-your-102-fast.html
This is a great thread to read on how Tony makes magic happens..... 500 is achievable but it takes MAX PAYING ATTENTION TO DETAILS.
This is a great thread to read on how Tony makes magic happens..... 500 is achievable but it takes MAX PAYING ATTENTION TO DETAILS.
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I keep hearing that my cam not big enough to hit my goal but I don't think I can go much bigger if any bigger with out piston meeting the vavles
I'll be running morel link bar lifter n btr rocker upgrade kit. I feel I have the best parts for my goal but if anyone see something I should change please let me know
03-22-2015, 03:53 PM
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Yes I have the tfs 225 heads already Got them for a smoking deal
Also have the cam The gf bought it for a Vday gift. I could call btr to see if they will let me exchange it for a custom one
Also have the cam The gf bought it for a Vday gift. I could call btr to see if they will let me exchange it for a custom one
03-22-2015, 04:23 PM
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Was just notified of this thread.....OP....not sure if your PM'ed me or emailed but I didn't received either.
No biggie.....to answer your question porting the intake is a no brainer.....doubles the gains from the swap for 25% or so of the total cost of installation (give or take).
Not sure if you already have the intake but I try to keep a ported cathedral on the shelf and will have one ready in a few days. If your sending me a new unit I can just swap it out (assuming you already have the manifold?).
Just shoot me a PM or email and we can figure out the specifics/details from there.
Cheers,
Tony
EDIT.....Just realized the OP and I have already been communicating via email....just put two and two together after recently responding to our existing email dialogue......LOL
No biggie.....to answer your question porting the intake is a no brainer.....doubles the gains from the swap for 25% or so of the total cost of installation (give or take).
Not sure if you already have the intake but I try to keep a ported cathedral on the shelf and will have one ready in a few days. If your sending me a new unit I can just swap it out (assuming you already have the manifold?).
Just shoot me a PM or email and we can figure out the specifics/details from there.
Cheers,
Tony
EDIT.....Just realized the OP and I have already been communicating via email....just put two and two together after recently responding to our existing email dialogue......LOL
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Tony's porting will help low-end as well as top end power on your FAST 102.
BTR LS1/2 stage IV 235*/242* will not have good low end, or daily driver
Manners IMHO and is a tad on the large side for your CI.
The stage II 227*/234* would be a great daily driver and have great
Throttle response with your supporting mods but I think might fall short
Of 500 RWHP! The stage III 231*/242* while I like the intake duration
Has a 11* exhaust split which is to much IMHO with good flowing
Exhaust port (TFS 225) and Kooks stepped header (1 3/4-1 7/8) ?
If it was me I would ask if I could exchange for their( LS2 Stage III
INTAKE 231* and combine it with their LS3 Stage II Exhaust 238*)
even if I needed to Pay for exchange and custom order charge, this would have The same 7* Split as their LS2 stage II & IV CAMS and would provide
The best of all worlds from the BTR Catalog IMHO.
I would choose a LSA of 114*+3* ( but my preference is for a smoother
Idle with more top end charge ) A younger person might prefer
An LSA of 111*-112* + 2*-3* which will Deliver a more choppy/lopey idle with more violent low and mid range Power.
Just my .02 discuss want you want with Brian, he is very cool to work with!
BTR LS1/2 stage IV 235*/242* will not have good low end, or daily driver
Manners IMHO and is a tad on the large side for your CI.
The stage II 227*/234* would be a great daily driver and have great
Throttle response with your supporting mods but I think might fall short
Of 500 RWHP! The stage III 231*/242* while I like the intake duration
Has a 11* exhaust split which is to much IMHO with good flowing
Exhaust port (TFS 225) and Kooks stepped header (1 3/4-1 7/8) ?
If it was me I would ask if I could exchange for their( LS2 Stage III
INTAKE 231* and combine it with their LS3 Stage II Exhaust 238*)
even if I needed to Pay for exchange and custom order charge, this would have The same 7* Split as their LS2 stage II & IV CAMS and would provide
The best of all worlds from the BTR Catalog IMHO.
I would choose a LSA of 114*+3* ( but my preference is for a smoother
Idle with more top end charge ) A younger person might prefer
An LSA of 111*-112* + 2*-3* which will Deliver a more choppy/lopey idle with more violent low and mid range Power.
Just my .02 discuss want you want with Brian, he is very cool to work with!
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Tony's porting will help low-end as well as top end power on your FAST 102.
BTR LS1/2 stage IV 235*/242* will not have good low end, or daily driver
Manners IMHO and is a tad on the large side for your CI.
The stage II 227*/234* would be a great daily driver and have great
Throttle response with your supporting mods but I think might fall short
Of 500 RWHP! The stage III 231*/242* while I like the intake duration
Has a 11* exhaust split which is to much IMHO with good flowing
Exhaust port (TFS 225) and Kooks stepped header (1 3/4-1 7/8) ?
If it was me I would ask if I could exchange for their( LS2 Stage III
INTAKE 231* and combine it with their LS3 Stage II Exhaust 238*)
even if I needed to Pay for exchange and custom order charge, this would have The same 7* Split as their LS2 stage II & IV CAMS and would provide
The best of all worlds from the BTR Catalog IMHO.
I would choose a LSA of 114*+3* ( but my preference is for a smoother
Idle with more top end charge ) A younger person might prefer
An LSA of 111*-112* + 2*-3* which will Deliver a more choppy/lopey idle with more violent low and mid range Power.
Just my .02 discuss want you want with Brian, he is very cool to work with!
BTR LS1/2 stage IV 235*/242* will not have good low end, or daily driver
Manners IMHO and is a tad on the large side for your CI.
The stage II 227*/234* would be a great daily driver and have great
Throttle response with your supporting mods but I think might fall short
Of 500 RWHP! The stage III 231*/242* while I like the intake duration
Has a 11* exhaust split which is to much IMHO with good flowing
Exhaust port (TFS 225) and Kooks stepped header (1 3/4-1 7/8) ?
If it was me I would ask if I could exchange for their( LS2 Stage III
INTAKE 231* and combine it with their LS3 Stage II Exhaust 238*)
even if I needed to Pay for exchange and custom order charge, this would have The same 7* Split as their LS2 stage II & IV CAMS and would provide
The best of all worlds from the BTR Catalog IMHO.
I would choose a LSA of 114*+3* ( but my preference is for a smoother
Idle with more top end charge ) A younger person might prefer
An LSA of 111*-112* + 2*-3* which will Deliver a more choppy/lopey idle with more violent low and mid range Power.
Just my .02 discuss want you want with Brian, he is very cool to work with!
But yes trickflow 225 heads with 1 3/4 to 1 7/8
03-22-2015, 06:32 PM
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Was just notified of this thread.....OP....not sure if your PM'ed me or emailed but I didn't received either.
No biggie.....to answer your question porting the intake is a no brainer.....doubles the gains from the swap for 25% or so of the total cost of installation (give or take).
Not sure if you already have the intake but I try to keep a ported cathedral on the shelf and will have one ready in a few days. If your sending me a new unit I can just swap it out (assuming you already have the manifold?).
Just shoot me a PM or email and we can figure out the specifics/details from there.
Cheers,
Tony
EDIT.....Just realized the OP and I have already been communicating via email....just put two and two together after recently responding to our existing email dialogue......LOL
No biggie.....to answer your question porting the intake is a no brainer.....doubles the gains from the swap for 25% or so of the total cost of installation (give or take).
Not sure if you already have the intake but I try to keep a ported cathedral on the shelf and will have one ready in a few days. If your sending me a new unit I can just swap it out (assuming you already have the manifold?).
Just shoot me a PM or email and we can figure out the specifics/details from there.
Cheers,
Tony
EDIT.....Just realized the OP and I have already been communicating via email....just put two and two together after recently responding to our existing email dialogue......LOL
Lol.... Thanks tony Looking forward to getting the intake
04-13-2015, 11:47 PM
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I'll know next week if it was worth the extra coin when the car hits the roller.... But Tony was a great guy with awesome customer Service plus is port job looks amazing pretty excited to see if it help me meet my goal
