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Old May 2, 2024 | 02:42 PM
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Hi,

I'm running a carbed 416 LS3 for road racing. I will not be using a MAP sensor. Looking at the programming software for the MSD 6014 box that I'm using, I see that there is one way of setting up the timing for CUSTOM 1 where you have a tab for engine speed vs RPM and then a second tap for MAP vs timing adjustment. And then for CUSTOM 2-4 it is a 2D table for timing at various RPM and MAP values.

Question 1 - Why is CUSTOM 1 configured differently than CUSTOM 2-4? Just seems odd that it's different if both ways can be configured to get the same result

Question 2 - If I'm not hooking up the MAP sensor, what should I do with the timing table? I figure for CUSTOM 1, I can set the Ignition Timing to 0 for all the MAP values. And then for CUSTOM 2-4, I would need to set the ignition value the same for all the cells in each column so that the MAP reading has no impact. Again, it is weird that I have to do two different methods to get the same sort of result.

I do not see any way to disable the MAP sensor and take it out of the equation. Is there?


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Sal





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Originally Posted by ssanto
Hi,

I'm running a carbed 416 LS3 for road racing. I will not be using a MAP sensor.
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I do not see any way to disable the MAP sensor



Sal
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. You WILL want to build a timing table based on Manifold Absolute Pressure vs RPM
Thus, you WILL want to mount MAP sensor.
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Originally Posted by Full Power
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. You WILL want to build a timing table based on Manifold Absolute Pressure vs RPM
Thus, you WILL want to mount MAP sensor.
In my previous road race SBC motors, I ran the distributor locked out at max timing. So no mechanical RPM advance or vacuum advance. Which worked fine because the motor was always operating above the "all-in" RPM for mechanical advance. I would start the car by turning it over first then flipping the ignition on.

My cam guy gave me a good set of baseline instructions for the timing on this LS3:
  • CRANK 0-500 RPM 17*
  • IDLE 500-1500 RPM .38*
  • TRANSITION 1500-2200 RPM 34*
  • 2200- TO MAX RPM START AT 28* AND GO FROM THERE
But even with that the timing is static past 2200 which is where the motor will spend all of it's time. On the track it never drops below 3500.

What benefit would adjusting the timing based on manifold pressure give me? I understand that I do this on my street motors to raise timing at part throttle cruise.


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Sal
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