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Old 07-24-2008, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MastMotorsports
L92 Casting Numbers:
5364
823

LS3 Casting Numbers:
821

(We have not seen an LS3 with a casting number other than 821.)

Hope this helps!

well whats the diffrence in the l92 casting numbers then???
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They are cast at different locations, the truck heads are cast in Mexico and use a different process and the vette heads are cast here in Michigan. GM uses the same casting design on both (port shape and configuration and flow) but the numbers are different for tracking purposes since there are 2 locations.
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I have however seen 821 castings w/o the hollow valves and good springs indicating they were destined for something other than an LS3
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just picked up a set of 823's today look to be the same as a 5364
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Originally Posted by MastMotorsports
L92 Casting Numbers:
5364
823

LS3 Casting Numbers:
821

(We have not seen an LS3 with a casting number other than 821.)

Hope this helps!

In 2009 the 821 is also used on the 6.2 and 6.0L truck engines.
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So casting 821 and 823 are identical? Is there any difference like combustion chamber size or intake runner design. I was thinking the 821 would flow a bit better since they're on the vettes. I may be wrong. Maybe the cc size is smaller therefor upping the static compression and yielding more power or maybe its just the hollow stem config. Someone shed some light on this.
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As far as I can tell the 823 and 821 are identical.
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The early l92 heads are gonna be a diff #, they had trouble with valves and retainers breaking, valve falling into the cylinder, then bang right back through the head, just not back through the valve guide, came out pretty much where ever the F it wanted to. Im a tech at Cadi and saw a bunch of those, so im pretty familiar with swapping a 6.2 into those things. But anyways they were replaceing the old engines with new ones with new or diff # heads on them.
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I found a set of 823 heads for 350 for the pair but I was gonna buy 12582714
from gm for 380 for the pair. It really boils down to shipping but are the 12582714 (out of 07 escalade) same as the 823 castings?
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Originally Posted by 69LT1Bird
They are cast at different locations, the truck heads are cast in Mexico and use a different process and the vette heads are cast here in Michigan. GM uses the same casting design on both (port shape and configuration and flow) but the numbers are different for tracking purposes since there are 2 locations.
I have a 2010 gmc sierra with a 6.2 and the casting number on the head is 821. I would think this is a ls3 motor with a dif cam..The truck is not a denali
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No, you have a regular truck 6.2L VVT engine. The 821 casting has been used on truck engines since 2009.
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Originally Posted by GRFMotorsports
No, you have a regular truck 6.2L VVT engine. The 821 casting has been used on truck engines since 2009.
The motor is a flex fuel motor.I haven't seen or read anywhere in my paperwork to sugest that this is a varible valve timing motor.Can't find any info on this motor just looking to get educated more

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Do you have the window sticker? The easiest way is to look at the front cover near the top, whether it is flat or not. They might make them but I have never seen a 6.2 that wasn't a VVT engine from the factory. Either way it is not just an LS3 with a different cam in it.
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http://archives.media.gm.com/us/powe...10truck_us.htm
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Great link, thanks, I thought all 6.2 engines were VVT
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The chart shows that they do, its the addition of AFM that is different for some:

L94 (VVT and AFM)

L9H (VVT only)
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Originally Posted by 69LT1Bird
The chart shows that they do, its the addition of AFM that is different for some:

L94 (VVT and AFM)

L9H (VVT only)
I looked today, at my window sticker and the stickers under the hood and the both say 6.2 ffv or flex fuel vehical. I pretty sure this isnt a vvt motor unless u prove me wrong.and what i read about the heads differ from the ls3 by a lighter spring and a cam for the truck pulling tq courve..?
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Originally Posted by rb6.2
I looked today, at my window sticker and the stickers under the hood and the both say 6.2 ffv or flex fuel vehical. I pretty sure this isnt a vvt motor unless u prove me wrong.and what i read about the heads differ from the ls3 by a lighter spring and a cam for the truck pulling tq courve..?
Guess i should have looked at the link before i tpyed this, Thanks
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Heads don't make it an LS3, sorry.

Look in your glove box or console and look for a label (called a SPID label, service parts identification label) that has a lot of 3 digit alphanumeric groups. You will see all of the option codes for the truck. You will see the L9H if its a 2010 truck. Not sure what else to tell you. The heads use the same casting, they have for years, other than that the similarities end. What is the big deal anyways?
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Originally Posted by 69LT1Bird
Heads don't make it an LS3, sorry.

Look in your glove box or console and look for a label (called a SPID label, service parts identification label) that has a lot of 3 digit alphanumeric groups. You will see all of the option codes for the truck. You will see the L9H if its a 2010 truck. Not sure what else to tell you. The heads use the same casting, they have for years, other than that the similarities end. What is the big deal anyways?
There is really no big deal just trying to educate myself on the motor, i will look at the tag in the morning. I see where the motor came from and why they put it in the trucks to compete with the hemi{ cause the 5.3 doesn't have enough] and the p.o.s tundra. I would like to put a turbo kit on it. but the10.5-1 that the motor has is to much compression to boost it and still have it be reliable..


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