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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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The crane lifters come with a shim to raise the lifter trays to accomodate the longer lifters. Once installed the lifter trays are above the block. They will definitely interfere with part of the head gasket (Cometic) that crosses over the lifter tray. What am I supposed to do? My cam is only a .602 lift. Do I even need to raise the trays?
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 05:08 AM
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The Morels are taller and I didn't need to do this. Install two and then roll the motor over by head and see if they contact the top of the tray. Push down on the lifter with a pushrod so it stays in contact with the cam lobe and use a flashlight to check for clearance inside the tray.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 08:35 AM
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Or just go with link bar style lifters and get rid of the POS trays.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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Or just go with link bar style lifters and get rid of the POS trays.
Do you know anyone running these for long term on the street? I have seen some state that for a street driven car they may not be reliable but it may just be internet BS.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob 's 73
The crane lifters come with a shim to raise the lifter trays to accomodate the longer lifters. Once installed the lifter trays are above the block. They will definitely interfere with part of the head gasket (Cometic) that crosses over the lifter tray. What am I supposed to do? My cam is only a .602 lift. Do I even need to raise the trays?
What part # do you have?
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 01:40 PM
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Do you know anyone running these for long term on the street? I have seen some state that for a street driven car they may not be reliable but it may just be internet BS.
Unfortunately I do not. I spoke with 99blancoSS about these lifters and the link bar types were always discussed as an upgrade over the standard morels. It allowed you to removed the lifter trays, which helped with oil drain back to the bottom end(wasn't that why everyone always drilled the stock trays??).

What have you heard that provided some smoke about these not living well in a street engine?
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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What part # do you have?
144536-16

I did turn the motor over witout the shim as Vettenuts suggested and I didn't detect any interference.

thanks for the responses.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob 's 73
144536-16

I did turn the motor over witout the shim as Vettenuts suggested and I didn't detect any interference.

thanks for the responses.
Hmm... I would have just rocomended a #144535-16 myself. What is the cam specs?
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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What have you heard that provided some smoke about these not living well in a street engine?
Read here a few guys have problems, but they were not specific or provided no details. Not sure if it is good information or not to be honest. It would appear to me to be a better design.
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Originally Posted by JPH
Hmm... I would have just rocomended a #144535-16 myself. What is the cam specs?
236/236 xer lobes.
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Originally Posted by Rob 's 73
236/236 xer lobes.
You could have used stock lifters honestly. What year block also?
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 08:14 PM
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08 or 09 LS3 (stroker). The block was a take out motor (LPE) with 24 miles on it.

I had TC breaking issues with the LS6. I didn't want to cut any corners on the new motor with the easy stuff. I track the car (C5 Z06) as much as $$ allow. Last year I was able to do 17 track days. I know the lifters didn't have anything to do with the TCs breaking but I know the LS7 and caddy lifters have been problems for others.

In addition to the lifters I went with the IRL chain, the newer style TC damper, and an ATI pulley instead of the ASP I had on there. The ASP is free to a good home.
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Originally Posted by Rob 's 73
<snip> The ASP is free to a good home.

Good luck getting rid of that
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Originally Posted by Rob 's 73
08 or 09 LS3 (stroker). The block was a take out motor (LPE) with 24 miles on it.

I had TC breaking issues with the LS6. I didn't want to cut any corners on the new motor with the easy stuff. I track the car (C5 Z06) as much as $$ allow. Last year I was able to do 17 track days. I know the lifters didn't have anything to do with the TCs breaking but I know the LS7 and caddy lifters have been problems for others.

In addition to the lifters I went with the IRL chain, the newer style TC damper, and an ATI pulley instead of the ASP I had on there. The ASP is free to a good home.
Well it would use the #144 series part number style lifters for sure.
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 08:56 AM
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Looks like I don't have any clearance issues without the shim. On to the next question in a new thread
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