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Old 03-02-2009, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jmdgto
was the block destroyed? this is one of the things that they think may be happening.
yeah,it was pretty much done for
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i will keep everyone informed what happens.
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have the same "knock" from my mahle forged pistons, they have -2 cc valve reliefs.... i dont like the noise much but as long as its not setting off the knock sensors im happy....
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they are doing a leak down and compression test . i will let everyone know the results.
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You're going to be spending a lot of money chasing a non-existant problem. The clearances on forged pistons are different than with normal pistons. They are built with looser tolerances due to expanding. So... the reason is sounds like a diesel on a cold start is due to the pistons being cold-The reason the sound goes away when it's warmed up is due to expansion from the heat. Thermal dynamic is neat. Williams saw a sucker, and they're going to get plenty of labor tearing your engine apart. Good luck.
Thanks for info
This info is very useful for me
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Old 03-05-2009, 08:43 AM
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I don't see how anyone here who hasn't heard the car in person can have a specific opinion of right or wrong. I have been around plenty of cars with forged internals and some that I knew had too much clearance. None of them have sounded quite this bad. Now before we go and boost this thing up more, wouldn't it be smarter to check it out before possibly completely destroying the engine?

I know that it is normal to hear a little piston slap when the engine is first started. Typically it goes away fast. With this one the noise is still audible when fully warm, just no where near as bad.

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There is a big difference between the sound going away when warmed up to not going away. If it was clearly stated in the original post it would have been easier for others in the thread to discern between the nature of forged pistons and a possible problem. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Nick Williams
I don't see how anyone here who hasn't heard the car in person can have a specific opinion of right or wrong. I have been around plenty of cars with forged internals and some that I knew had too much clearance. None of them have sounded quite this bad. Now before we go and boost this thing up more, wouldn't it be smarter to check it out before possibly completely destroying the engine?

I know that it is normal to hear a little piston slap when the engine is first started. Typically it goes away fast. With this one the noise is still audible when fully warm, just no where near as bad.

Nick
tks for the info nick. it was not knocking when warm when i brought it that morning.it must be getting worse. please let me know what you find. thanks for taking care of this for me.
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Originally Posted by Nick Williams
I have been around plenty of cars with forged internals and some that I knew had too much clearance.
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Always a good idea to track down new engine noises then to wait and see what happens, as it normally leads to a very expensive rebuild.
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Very curious to see what came of this
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I had my forged 427 originally built with JE pistons without offset pins, it sounded like a diesel and did not quiet even once it was warm. I would not drive a car that sounded like this so the pistons were replaced with Diamonds w/offset pins and it is quiet as a mouse even cold.
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Any news?
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No news is usually good news
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motor is out. they are checking clearances on the pistons and cylinder walls. looks like it may have been too much clearance and scared #1 and #3. won't know the whole story until next week. pictures to follow.
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Originally Posted by jmdgto
motor is out. they are checking clearances on the pistons and cylinder walls. looks like it may have been too much clearance and scared #1 and #3. won't know the whole story until next week. pictures to follow.
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