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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 01:39 AM
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So here are a couple pictures I took of what were stuck to the magnet on my oil pan plug. almost looks like the radius of a valve spring but I have checked my valve springs and they are all intact. The car lost oil pressure. Any ideas anyone?




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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 01:47 AM
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well i can at least see its sumthin small judging by the paper towel they are sittin on, is the bottom pic segments put together? or is that a seperate piece than the other pics
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 01:53 AM
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The pictures are way too blurry to be able to tell what the pieces are.
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 07:44 AM
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Looks kind of like a valvespring.
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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Yeah the pictures are pretty shitty, But yes in that picture that is three separate pieces put together to show the radius of it
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 10:26 PM
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You dropped a valve seat.
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 10:43 PM
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You dropped a valve seat.
yep,
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by shtnfrds
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yup, X3,,,what heads,,,what springs? You can get that stuff fixed and get back on the road soon,,,,,not that big a deal. Good luck!

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Originally Posted by Jimbo'sZO6
yup, X3,,,what heads,,,what springs? You can get that stuff fixed and get back on the road soon,,,,,not that big a deal. Good luck!

Jimbo
If that is a valve seat which it appears to be then i submit it is a really big deal if he found it stuck to the drain plug! It had to go past the piston to get to the drain plug which means the piston is either gone or at least has a large window in the top of it...
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Looks like Valvespring to me. Have you replaced the valve springs before? Are the valvesprings in there right now the originals? Did you actually take the valvesprings off and look at them? Reason I ask, is I thikn its one of the following two things:

1.) Valve spring from a past install/setup broke and fell into the pan and have been sitting there for a while, finally getting stuck on the screen of the pickup tube.

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2.) The bottom of a current valve spring came apart and drained into the oil pan. You probably wouldn't even notice it unless you actually took the valve springs off. You could have lost oil pressure from the pieces getting stuck on the screen of the pickup tube.

What can be for certain though is it is definitely valve spring and not a valve seat. The radius is far too small for a valve seat and wrong material from what I can see in the blurry pictures.

As was asked before, what springs are you running?
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Originally Posted by 1sick'98WS6
So here are a couple pictures I took of what were stuck to the magnet on my oil pan plug. almost looks like the radius of a valve spring but I have checked my valve springs and they are all intact. The car lost oil pressure. Any ideas anyone?
If they are all intact, do any sit up higher than the others? I don't see how a valve seat could make it into the oil pan, but anything is possible I guess. I don't know how the valvespring would kill the oil pressure unless it trashed the oil pump.

Sorry man, this sounds bad.
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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Im running PRC dual valve springs with only 3k miles on them. What worries me the most is that I bought this motor from a guy named Greinder03 who has a lot of similarities to craig payne, a guy on this board that has been sending out junk ls2's and passing them off as good motors. These pieces I'd agree are a valvespring, but not from any of my valvesprings, it looks like a stock one.

Either way, the oil pressure is not there, and I found these in my pan... Im thinking I need to rebuild it either way

BTW thanks for all the input, anything else is appreciated.
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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id lean on valve spring, peices look way to small and plentiful to be a valve seat and as stated not gonna get to oil pan unless you get thru a piston first .. no parts like that in a oil pump either i dont think, i just slung a spare one if i still had it id crack it open and take a peak, best bet it 99center bolt v covr car itd take me a whole 5 mins to pull covers and look for broke springs,
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by blkm6formula
You dropped a valve seat.
yup
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SIC LSX
yup
Like was said before, definitely did not drop a valve seat.


If you got this motor from Griender03 or whoever, you have a **** piece. Those piece of the valvespring were there before. Def tear it apart and do some more investigations, you could have spun a bearing unrelated to the pieces in the pan.

Sorry for your bad luck, i feel your pain.
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Originally Posted by Haans249
Like was said before, definitely did not drop a valve seat.


If you got this motor from Griender03 or whoever, you have a **** piece. Those piece of the valvespring were there before. Def tear it apart and do some more investigations, you could have spun a bearing unrelated to the pieces in the pan.

Sorry for your bad luck, i feel your pain.
I'd agree to this post completely. I'm positive this isn't my valve spring, greinder03 is as shady as it gets. I am not going to bother with it, looks like a 408 short block from tsp is it. Hopefully i can salvage the 243's that are on it.
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Originally Posted by 1sick'98WS6
I'd agree to this post completely. I'm positive this isn't my valve spring, greinder03 is as shady as it gets. I am not going to bother with it, looks like a 408 short block from tsp is it. Hopefully i can salvage the 243's that are on it.
LMK when you want to sell the LS2 shortblock
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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OK so my engine builder says that the tips of the bottom of my valve springs broke because the wrong seat was used. I just swapped my dual prc springs over from my ls1.

Does this sound right to anyone?
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Sounds more like it. Did you look at the springs?
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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No I have not looked at them, I'm just going off of what he told me.
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