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Old 06-16-2010, 10:45 AM
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Question ls3 415-427? hp? like?

what kind of power are you guys getting out of these stroked ls3's and do you like them or would you do something different? thanks aj

hp and tq #---

which cam and heads----

what car---

what cubes---

stick or auto---

like or dislike---

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anyone?
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Well if there wasnt like 9 million diffrent combos for those types of setups you might of had better luck with an answer.

But here ya go... Aveage 418 to 427 ls3, stage 2 ish head with middle of the road cam is worth 510-550
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Yeah they are so many combos.
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i just want to know peoples combos and if they like them!!

like this

98 camaro 6 spd with brand new stock ls3 out of 2010 camaro
stock cubes
lg g6x3 cam
471 hp 450 tq to the tires
dont really like want more power and bigger cam

something like that!! please thanks aj
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My 414 ls3 made 750 at the flywheel NA.

GMPP intake, 11.2:1 compression, 255/265 110 lsa cam
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Originally Posted by Pwebbz28
My 414 ls3 made 750 at the flywheel NA.

GMPP intake, 11.2:1 compression, 255/265 110 lsa cam
wow!! nice #
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Originally Posted by Pwebbz28
My 414 ls3 made 750 at the flywheel NA.

GMPP intake, 11.2:1 compression, 255/265 110 lsa cam
That is impressive without a power adder.
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Solid roller cam. Lift around .700 and turns 8000-8500. Car has A/C and full interior. 175 shot it made just under 1000 flywheel. Wheel numbers soon
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Originally Posted by Pwebbz28
Solid roller cam. Lift around .700 and turns 8000-8500. Car has A/C and full interior. 175 shot it made just under 1000 flywheel. Wheel numbers soon
Damn! thats badass
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Originally Posted by Pwebbz28
My 414 ls3 made 750 at the flywheel NA.

GMPP intake, 11.2:1 compression, 255/265 110 lsa cam
Originally Posted by Pwebbz28
Solid roller cam. Lift around .700 and turns 8000-8500. Car has A/C and full interior. 175 shot it made just under 1000 flywheel. Wheel numbers soon
Very Nice. I hope to make that on my 440. My cam seems to be a but smaller in lift than yours. I might change that...

What cylinder heads? Valvetrain? Oiling system?
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I could have built either and built a 416 LS3. I chose to do so because I like the shorter stroke 416 for the nitrous I want to add. Who knows, but I may even do a blower later w/larger cc heads.

My last trip to the drags was high 10s in 90F, so I can't complain.
When I'm on the throttle, it plants you good and runs smooth. When you are in traffic putting around, you can hit the A/C and go in cognito.

My regret is that I did not run a solid cam. I will fix that soon. I really like the Diamond pistons and LSL comp cam though. No oil burn and a nice hard hit from the cam across the board.

I would post up my rwhp, but I feel like MPH = HP. I'm not much of a believe in dynos, except for relative tuning.
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Originally Posted by Gordon0652
What cylinder heads? Valvetrain? Oiling system?
L92 heads ported by Chris Frank@Frankenstein Racing Heads in Ft Worth, Texas.

Rockers are a custom DRE (Dearmore Racing) shaft system. I cant remember the pressures on the springs but they are 1.55" springs if memory serves. Valves are custom length Manley i THINK.

Moroso oilpan and pump.
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485rwhp, 470ish rwtq. Details in my sig.

I enjoy the power the engine makes, but I would like more (doesn't everyone?). When I am not cruising above 130mph on the autobahn, I can get 250 - 265 miles on a tank, and that is at 90 - 110mph. My shortblock is all forged, so I do have the option of nitrous or forced induction. The only thing I 'should' need to update is my stock fuel lines and injectors, and maybe my clutch. I have (I think) 72 or 76 lb injectors, and with a power adder I'd need to go bigger. I also have -15cc pistons, so a low compression is possible with a nonmilled head if I go with FI.

If I were to build another engine, I'd go with a forged LS7 stock cubes, larger than stock heads (AFR ported by Tony), FAST 102 (ported by Tony), light weight valvetrain, stock rockers (I have broken a dozen YT 1.7 roller rockers), and a custom cam from Pat G. The key here would be to get your engine type and size info to Tony, tell him what your goals are, and have him draw up the 'best' head for your application. He'll give you quench distance, compression ratio, DCR, SCR, flow rates and so on. Then talk to Pat G, let him know you're working with Tony, tell him your goals and what Tony is doing for you, and tell him what you have and want. Pat will grind up a cam for you and you'll love life when it's all done.

Well, at least that's what I'd do.
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how do you like that g6x3 cam?
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Originally Posted by kidreno_21
485rwhp, 470ish rwtq. Details in my sig.

I enjoy the power the engine makes, but I would like more (doesn't everyone?). When I am not cruising above 130mph on the autobahn, I can get 250 - 265 miles on a tank, and that is at 90 - 110mph. My shortblock is all forged, so I do have the option of nitrous or forced induction. The only thing I 'should' need to update is my stock fuel lines and injectors, and maybe my clutch. I have (I think) 72 or 76 lb injectors, and with a power adder I'd need to go bigger. I also have -15cc pistons, so a low compression is possible with a nonmilled head if I go with FI.

If I were to build another engine, I'd go with a forged LS7 stock cubes, larger than stock heads (AFR ported by Tony), FAST 102 (ported by Tony), light weight valvetrain, stock rockers (I have broken a dozen YT 1.7 roller rockers), and a custom cam from Pat G. The key here would be to get your engine type and size info to Tony, tell him what your goals are, and have him draw up the 'best' head for your application. He'll give you quench distance, compression ratio, DCR, SCR, flow rates and so on. Then talk to Pat G, let him know you're working with Tony, tell him your goals and what Tony is doing for you, and tell him what you have and want. Pat will grind up a cam for you and you'll love life when it's all done.

Well, at least that's what I'd do.
Nice set up, your heads and cam are keeping about 40-50 rwhp from you thought.

Thats a small head on a 418.
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Originally Posted by ajw2500hd
how do you like that g6x3 cam?
I like it, but I'd also like more lope. I would change it, but I'm pretty lazy.

Originally Posted by nysbadmk8
Nice set up, your heads and cam are keeping about 40-50 rwhp from you thought.

Thats a small head on a 418.
I wanted over 500 rwhp & rwtq, but yeah, heads and cam are limiting factors. If I do change my set up, I am thinking AFR 245 head and custom cam by Pat G. But that all takes money, and right now I am planning on a custom paint job, and here in Germany, 2500 Euros is just over $3000. This will require saving money and not spending it all on weekend trips to other countries.

The ported 205, I am told, flows like a 215 head. When I was planning this set up, I was trying to save money, so I used the 205s I had on my LS1 and I got them ported by Tony. Monday morning quarterbacking this set up, yeah, whatever. My SS hauls *** on the autobahn and I have had some Porsches fall back from me.

Sorry if I hijacked this thread. Not intentional, just hoping others learn from my past, which reminds me: Don't date a stripper. If she brings a girl home, you may just find yourself in the kitchen fixing a sandwich with the girls in the bedroom.

edit: I also believe that if I had more power I'd do one of the following:
a. Go back in time
b. Lift off
c. Use it all and hurt myself and someone else in the process, resulting in wrecking my SS.

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no hijacking!! lol i love to hear all this stuff to get new ideas and setup's so i dont waste money like i did last year!! thanks for the info
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Originally Posted by kidreno_21
I like it, but I'd also like more lope. I would change it, but I'm pretty lazy.



I wanted over 500 rwhp & rwtq, but yeah, heads and cam are limiting factors. If I do change my set up, I am thinking AFR 245 head and custom cam by Pat G. But that all takes money, and right now I am planning on a custom paint job, and here in Germany, 2500 Euros is just over $3000. This will require saving money and not spending it all on weekend trips to other countries.

The ported 205, I am told, flows like a 215 head. When I was planning this set up, I was trying to save money, so I used the 205s I had on my LS1 and I got them ported by Tony. Monday morning quarterbacking this set up, yeah, whatever. My SS hauls *** on the autobahn and I have had some Porsches fall back from me.

Sorry if I hijacked this thread. Not intentional, just hoping others learn from my past, which reminds me: Don't date a stripper. If she brings a girl home, you may just find yourself in the kitchen fixing a sandwich with the girls in the bedroom.

edit: I also believe that if I had more power I'd do one of the following:
a. Go back in time
b. Lift off
c. Use it all and hurt myself and someone else in the process, resulting in wrecking my SS.

Yeah, id eat the sandwhich watching though!
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