Generation IV Internal Engine 2005-2014 LS2 | LS3 | LS7 | L92 | LS9

Cam overlap, how important is this?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-14-2010, 08:27 PM
  #1  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
iTrader: (15)
 
avengedws6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Cleburne, Tx.
Posts: 632
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Cam overlap, how important is this?

I have my eyes set on a cam for my N/A 370 build. I was talking with a guy at work, and he told me it had 90 degree's of overlap. Is that bad or good? And why.
Old 08-14-2010, 09:58 PM
  #2  
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
thedak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 189
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

90* of overlap ?

That guy is an idiot.

Never talk to him again.
Old 08-14-2010, 11:39 PM
  #3  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
SOMbitch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 6,881
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Add the intake and exhaust durations
Divide the results by 4
Subtract the LSA
Multiply the results by 2

Keep in mind most cam specs are given at .050 and you need seat to seat times to calculate correctly..

The easiest way is to add the intake opening time to the exhaust closing time and VIOLA!!!. See your cam card....

Note: just about everybody on here you see figures it at .050 and gets - numbers to + numbers in the teens usually..... but not true overlap.... I guess it can be used as a reference though ......

BUT YEA 90* IS REDICULOUS..... 90* is an ALL out race cam....

Last edited by SOMbitch; 08-16-2010 at 03:42 PM.
Old 08-15-2010, 03:32 AM
  #4  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
iTrader: (15)
 
avengedws6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Cleburne, Tx.
Posts: 632
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

I came up with 25*. But what does "overlap" mean?
Old 08-15-2010, 05:36 AM
  #5  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (36)
 
davidws6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Kansas
Posts: 747
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Overlap is when both valves are open at the same time. That's how you get the inversion that causes the lope and not to mention bucking just off of idle. More overlap, more bucking and tuning problems.
Though a good tuner can smooth it out pretty good.

If you have to pass smog, it's best to have 0 or negative overlap.
Old 08-15-2010, 08:32 AM
  #6  
TECH Fanatic
 
ringram's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Sunny London, UK
Posts: 1,691
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by thedak
90* of overlap ?

That guy is an idiot.

Never talk to him again.
Are you sure?

What about advertised duration rather than 0.050 specs!?
Old 08-15-2010, 06:31 PM
  #7  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
iTrader: (15)
 
avengedws6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Cleburne, Tx.
Posts: 632
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by ringram
Are you sure?

What about advertised duration rather than 0.050 specs!?
247/251 - .624/.632 - 112 lsa
Old 08-16-2010, 08:30 AM
  #8  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (5)
 
Redcorvette2000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: rock hill, sc
Posts: 448
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by thedak
90* of overlap ?

That guy is an idiot.

Never talk to him again.
hahahahahahahah!
Old 08-16-2010, 01:50 PM
  #9  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (5)
 
5 Liter Eater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Pearland, TX
Posts: 520
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

To get the overlap I use the average of the intake and exhaust durations and subtract the LSA x 2. The bigger the number the more overlap. Negative numbers make good blower cams.
Old 08-16-2010, 03:40 PM
  #10  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
SOMbitch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 6,881
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by avengedws6
247/251 - .624/.632 - 112 lsa

Those are your specs @.050 Reread my first post......



Quick Reply: Cam overlap, how important is this?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:54 PM.