what kind of numbers are you putting down??

 

403 made 530/480

427 makes 577/530

Both extremely mild builds.

 

okay reason im asking is i have a ls6 now in my TA.. welllll it was in there. bearing issues so its pulled apart now.

local shop has a lunati stroker crank and lunati billet rods slightly used in good condition for a good price.

now, put it in my ls1 for a 383 and make maybe 430-450 or buy a ls3 block and ls3 or l92 heads and put that same crank and rods in for a 416 and make 500+...

only thing is moneys tight so I really gotta consider all my options as far as parts go.

 

With a blown 415, made 832 to the crank.

 

here 510rwhp / 485rwtq

 

With that sentence you need to put it back stock or just build the 383 which is still going to cost you.

I'm building a 416 and here is a little list for you

2500.....416 rot. assm. fro TSP
800.......Whole L92 motor off craigslist
1000.....Getting L92 heads ported and spring change from TSP
550.......Conversion from TSP to get LS2 timing cover and other things
2000.....FAST 102 intake with Direct Port system
400....... Custom cam from EPS
670....... Lunati tie bar lifters

Things I still need to get

950.......1 7/8 headers
450.......TSP true duals
~1100... Custom converter
550.......TB
~500.....Injectors

Things I don't have concrete prices on

Pushrods
EWP
Tubular k-member
fuel rails
Bigger mass air

You can take some of the things off my list because you might reuse a couple of things off your previous setup which in turn makes it cheaper for you

There is a bunch more nick nack stuff that I can't think of now but that stuff will nickel and dime you to death.

Going big like this costs money but it will payoff in the end, just make sure you have the budget for it. Good luck with the build

 

Add $1,500-$2,000 for "incidentals" that you will need.

 

Thats what I call "nick nacks"

 

Incidentals?
Lol
Is that what were gonna call them? Lol

424--- kooks ypipe
800--- FAST 102
340--- Nick Williams 102
600--- kooks 2" headers new at a good deal
1000--- for AES to build my motor and coat all the bearings
200--- for injectors to get resized to 50lbs
375--- Lunati lifters
1699---LPE Ls3 heads
320--- Comp LsR cam
320---Comp 925 springs
120---C5R timing chain
180--ARP Main bolts
120---ARP head bolts

Damn the lust, I mean List just keeps going. There's no such thing as a budget build anymore

Ohh almost forgot, incidentially the 416 was 2200 new(I had another good deal)

 

I'll just give the full price at $14000 for a WELL built 416. Scorpion throttle body to moroso oil pan

 

But what do you call "mild builds"?

 

Small cams, moderate CR, nothing crazy..just very well put together.

 

Was this a Virgina Speed build?

 

IMO dyno numbers are for sissys.....I have a 416cid LS3 that goes just under 132mph on motor in a lightened car. Ported stock heads and intake, custom cam.

 

Easy there killer!

Your not on camaro5 forums, there eint no sissys here. We do know they are only tools. I use it to make sure the tune and everything else associated with it is right.

 

Ryne at cms Built my 416 ls3


LS6 intake

LS3 Block 4.070 Bore 4.00 stroke

CMS Spec cam 243/247/ 623/623 112+2

West Coast Cylinder heads Edelbrock 245 heads in 72CC

Texas Speed ! 7/8 headers

Most of all Ryne@CMS Speed Dens tune

most of all Stock MAF and non ported LS6 intake

Final numbers 485 RWHP 465RWTRQ
here is my build thread with dyno numbers and print out
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...cms-416-a.html

 

You're no different than us. You just described eveybody here. Some have a FAST intake.

 

Priorities.

Is this your DD that you need to get back running asap? Then go with the 383 and take care of business.

Is it a pleasure car? Then patience is a virtue and wait till u can afford the good stuff. It's always worth the wait.

 

Understatement of the year....

 

aww my 346 runs that...