$2800.00 Labor quote for H/C swap...really?
02-16-2012, 09:10 PM
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If the name Speed Inc doesn't persuade you or $1250 WITH dyno tune doesn't either I don't know what to tell you. Your first quote completely out of line, thats rediculous for a labor quote. With that said when you get a quote that high it usually means they don't want to do it or their ******* idiots. Speed Inc specializes in LSX vehicles while these other less reputable shops quote you the same and are NOT as good. No brainer here.
I know they are a good name...but I have heard a couple of bad stories as well from a guy in the chicago area. Not sure if they are true just saying.
I am not really persuaded with anyone yet...still just keeping my options open. I appreciate the input though. Thanks
02-16-2012, 09:31 PM
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The other day I was quoted $1500 for a cam swap ONLY! and that didnt include dyno tuning. In my head I was LOL'ing. Today I called another local shop that is very highly knowledgeable in LSX engines and for Heads AND cam installed would be from $1000-$1200, and $300 for dyno tuning.
I live in Toronto, and i dont mind driving to Northeast Michigan area or upstate NY, or PA for work if they are knowledgeable, have good feedback and have pretty reasonable prices. Just keep calling around and you should be golden
also, for any of the guys that do installs themselves, whats some good books to buy? Helms i hear is good
I live in Toronto, and i dont mind driving to Northeast Michigan area or upstate NY, or PA for work if they are knowledgeable, have good feedback and have pretty reasonable prices. Just keep calling around and you should be golden
also, for any of the guys that do installs themselves, whats some good books to buy? Helms i hear is good
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02-16-2012, 10:17 PM
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To spend $2800 you'd have to make $4000 or so before tax, and $2800 sounds crazy high. Higher prices do not necessarily equal higher quality, they just augment the perceived quality of a product/ service as reported by buyers/ users. Causation and correlation are two different things. None of the stuff you've mentioned sounds all that hard anyway. http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?article=2
http://www.amazon.com/Modify-Engines...9452222&sr=8-4
http://www.amazon.com/Modify-Engines...9452222&sr=8-4
02-16-2012, 10:42 PM
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^^^^what he said.
Wow....$2800...what an unbelievable rip off. They either have little experience doing it, or they are just trying to rip you off, of they're about to go out of business and need the cash. Either way....don't use them.
Speed Inc.......wow....you have to take it there......thats a top shop. Consider yourself lucky that you're so close to them.
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Wow....$2800...what an unbelievable rip off. They either have little experience doing it, or they are just trying to rip you off, of they're about to go out of business and need the cash. Either way....don't use them.
Speed Inc.......wow....you have to take it there......thats a top shop. Consider yourself lucky that you're so close to them.
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02-17-2012, 03:57 AM
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^^^^^ im with Guitar on this 1. Everything u named off is as simple as can be especially dealing with a ls engine. Almost idiot proof task . A $20 good book compared to $2800 labor would deff be worth the time ro install urself. Just MHO!
02-17-2012, 09:14 AM
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Thanks again for the advice guys.
Does anyone here have any personal experience with Speed Inc?
I have done all the work on the car so far...and like I said I have done a h/c swap before (actually 3 of them) Honestly having more money in my pocket is making me lazy or something....I cant find the gumption to talk myself into it.
Does anyone here have any personal experience with Speed Inc?
I have done all the work on the car so far...and like I said I have done a h/c swap before (actually 3 of them) Honestly having more money in my pocket is making me lazy or something....I cant find the gumption to talk myself into it.
02-17-2012, 09:27 AM
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If your having to continually ask about Speed Inc. do you really know the LS aftermarket that well?
Take it to Speed Inc. and be done with it or do it yourself if you have done this before.
Think about what you could buy with 2 grand still in your pocket! That's alot of lap dances man!
Take it to Speed Inc. and be done with it or do it yourself if you have done this before.
Think about what you could buy with 2 grand still in your pocket! That's alot of lap dances man!
02-17-2012, 09:37 AM
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The other day I was quoted $1500 for a cam swap ONLY! and that didnt include dyno tuning. In my head I was LOL'ing. Today I called another local shop that is very highly knowledgeable in LSX engines and for Heads AND cam installed would be from $1000-$1200, and $300 for dyno tuning.
02-17-2012, 09:45 AM
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I've done probably 30 cam swaps.. and plenty of heads and cam swaps.. I could never justify charging somebody 2800 dollars.. Even with me being very particular/detailed on my installs.
lol I charge 80/hr at my shop. I would probably say doing the heads/cam together would be around 15 hours or so, which would be around 1200 bucks.. add maybe another 2 hours to do the electric water pump and checking ptv.. now if the ptv is too tight and it needs flycutting or what-not.. The price will go up accordingly.. I think anything over 1500 without a dynotune is just ridiculous.
I worked for a dealership for 5 years and even there we wouldn't go that far off! I have 0 experience with Speed Inc. However they are very talked about and everything is always good, so I would probably trust that they know what they are doing. Good luck in whichever way you decide to go.
lol I charge 80/hr at my shop. I would probably say doing the heads/cam together would be around 15 hours or so, which would be around 1200 bucks.. add maybe another 2 hours to do the electric water pump and checking ptv.. now if the ptv is too tight and it needs flycutting or what-not.. The price will go up accordingly.. I think anything over 1500 without a dynotune is just ridiculous.
I worked for a dealership for 5 years and even there we wouldn't go that far off! I have 0 experience with Speed Inc. However they are very talked about and everything is always good, so I would probably trust that they know what they are doing. Good luck in whichever way you decide to go.
02-17-2012, 10:22 AM
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In other news...Straightline already got back to me with a quote. I sent them a detailed E-mail and this is what I got back.
It's $550 for a cam install, and $400 for the heads. $125 for the trunion kit, and then the eletric water pump wiring will just be hourly (doesn't take long usually). Then $450 for the dyno tune. I noticed that you didn't include lifters, I would definitely look into those (I recommend Comp Cams 875 lifters). We have done enough low mileage cars to know that sometimes a lifter doesn't pump back up when being reused. Last thing you want to do is to have to take the heads back off if that happens.
Looking at 1525 here plus whatever the EWP labor is.
And yes I know speed inc was a cheaper quote...but like I said I didnt give them any details over the phone...I am waiting for my e-mail quote to come back in which I sent them all the details.
02-17-2012, 09:19 PM
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I just called speed inc in Illinois which is a 4 hour drive for me. They have been specializing in lsx cars for years and I would imagine they could do it as well as anyone.
They quoted me 1250.00 WITH DYNO TUNE. That seems too good to be true.
Dont know what the hell to think now...im not sure.
They quoted me 1250.00 WITH DYNO TUNE. That seems too good to be true.
Dont know what the hell to think now...im not sure.
02-17-2012, 09:51 PM
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If your having to continually ask about Speed Inc. do you really know the LS aftermarket that well?
Take it to Speed Inc. and be done with it or do it yourself if you have done this before.
Think about what you could buy with 2 grand still in your pocket! That's alot of lap dances man!
Take it to Speed Inc. and be done with it or do it yourself if you have done this before.
Think about what you could buy with 2 grand still in your pocket! That's alot of lap dances man!
BUT...In a matter of about an hour I had 3 private messages from different people on another forum telling me about their recent personal bad experiences with them. Some of them rather frightening.
Didnt want to go their...but some of you want to make me out as some kind of fool/LS ignorant for weighing my options. Just gathering all the info I can to make the most informed decision possible. Its not like this is my 8000 dollar 98 z28 I used to have.
02-17-2012, 09:59 PM
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Leaning heavily toward Finishline Performance or Mike Norris Motorsports right now. One is 3.5 hr drive and the other is 4. Both have very very high regards and I feel very comfortable going to either. Being I look at them as being equal in quality I will probably go with whoever is cheaper. If they are roughly the same...I'll go with Norris and save the 1/2 hr of driving. Havent got a quote from Norris yet. But everyone seems to be about the same ballpark so far...besides one.
