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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 11:44 PM
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Since Im having trouble selling my shortblock I was condering doing a budget build with L92/ls3 topend. I just want to hear some opinions or feedback to see if its worth it.

Iron block bored out to 4.060
Off-set ground eagle crank to 3.70
6.25 eagle forged rods
Ross 8cc flycut reliefs
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 12:48 AM
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No need for the offset ground crank. Thats just to get every last bit of CI for your class thats allowed. If not done correctly it will weaken the crank and its not budget friendly. If you are buying an aftermarket crank already why not just go 4"? Also I would stick with a 6.125 rod simply for ease of piston selection. I would go with a nice tie bar lifter over the LS7 ones.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 01:07 AM
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That's actually the current set up on my shortblock, Its already put together. Ive been reading a lot about L92/Ls3 making good number so I was wondering if it would perform well with my shortblock since I have a 4" bore

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Why are you boring it to 4.060? I went with a 4.030 bore on my build. YOur only gaining 6 ci with the extra .030". You will never notice the loss of 6 ci.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 05:21 AM
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Why are you boring it to 4.060? I went with a 4.030 bore on my build. YOur only gaining 6 ci with the extra .030". You will never notice the loss of 6 ci.
IMHO, it's the little things like this that make the difference. This one little thing may only be worth 5hp, but with four other things that make 5hp each as well and it adds up fast.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 06:58 AM
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But will you notice the total of those four little things? Especially given their cost, will you ever notice 20hp in a budget build motor?
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by chuckd71
But will you notice the total of those four little things? Especially given their cost, will you ever notice 20hp in a budget build motor?
I would hope you could notice 20-25 more horsepower.

Who says they have to cost more? I went to a 4.060" bore and got the stock LS3 pistons for free when I most likely would have had to pay at least $200 for 4.030" pistons. Now I have 6 more cubic inches and my valve is further away from the bore wall.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by KCS
I would hope you could notice 20-25 more horsepower.

Who says they have to cost more? I went to a 4.060" bore and got the stock LS3 pistons for free when I most likely would have had to pay at least $200 for 4.030" pistons. Now I have 6 more cubic inches and my valve is further away from the bore wall.
Amen!!! There is a reason GM bumped the bore from 4.0 to 4.065. The Ly6 makes 20 less HP than the L92. Only difference is the bore.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 12:33 PM
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So would the L92/ls3 be a good topend with the shortblock.? I was considering milling the heads too.

L92 heads
Ls3 intake/fuel rails.
ls3 rockers and stands
92mm Throttle body
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 02:44 PM
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interesting shortblock you built. an LS3 top end will do just fine. spec out the correct camshaft and itll do what you want it to.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Outlaw E36
So would the L92/ls3 be a good topend with the shortblock.? I was considering milling the heads too.

L92 heads
Ls3 intake/fuel rails.
ls3 rockers and stands
92mm Throttle body
I did a 4.065 iron block. L92 heads and LS3 intake race ported. 92mm TB. aftermarket valves and entire valvetrain. Diamond pop-ups. 11.5 to 1 on pump gas. made 504whp 489 TQ with the off the shelf Comp 231/239 cam. 1 7/8ths headers and dual 3 inch. SD tuned.

I would say you would be pleased with what they can produce. This was in a Daily Driver.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 07:41 PM
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This dyno is from my l92 headed 6.0. Very similar to what you are thinking of doing.

M6 car

Iron block 6.0. - stock cubes.
L92 heads milled to 64cc chamber.
TSP 233/239 .595/.605 114LSA
1-3/4 kooks longtubes
ls3 42lb/hr injectors
l76 intake
off brand 90mm throttle body
ls7 lifters

Dyno operator had to let off at 5300rpm due to driveline vibration. (later found out i had a dent in my driveshaft).
The rate of rise in hp over rpm im guessing it will be reeeeaalll close to 450.

And IIRC i had over .100" PTV at TDC.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 09:40 PM
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This dyno is from my l92 headed 6.0. Very similar to what you are thinking of doing.

M6 car

Iron block 6.0. - stock cubes.
L92 heads milled to 64cc chamber.
TSP 233/239 .595/.605 114LSA
1-3/4 kooks longtubes
ls3 42lb/hr injectors
l76 intake
off brand 90mm throttle body
ls7 lifters

Dyno operator had to let off at 5300rpm due to driveline vibration. (later found out i had a dent in my driveshaft).
The rate of rise in hp over rpm im guessing it will be reeeeaalll close to 450.

And IIRC i had over .100" PTV at TDC.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by midevil1
I did a 4.065 iron block. L92 heads and LS3 intake race ported. 92mm TB. aftermarket valves and entire valvetrain. Diamond pop-ups. 11.5 to 1 on pump gas. made 504whp 489 TQ with the off the shelf Comp 231/239 cam. 1 7/8ths headers and dual 3 inch. SD tuned.

I would say you would be pleased with what they can produce. This was in a Daily Driver.
This is very similar to what I had In mind. Who did the porting and how much did it cost you.? What was the cc on your heads.? I hope I get lucky and get good numbers like yours

Originally Posted by Zbinkley
This dyno is from my l92 headed 6.0. Very similar to what you are thinking of doing.

M6 car

Iron block 6.0. - stock cubes.
L92 heads milled to 64cc chamber.
TSP 233/239 .595/.605 114LSA
1-3/4 kooks longtubes
ls3 42lb/hr injectors
l76 intake
off brand 90mm throttle body
ls7 lifters

Dyno operator had to let off at 5300rpm due to driveline vibration. (later found out i had a dent in my driveshaft).
The rate of rise in hp over rpm im guessing it will be reeeeaalll close to 450.

And IIRC i had over .100" PTV at TDC.
Did you ever get to re-dyno the car.? Seems like a good set up
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Zbinkley
This dyno is from my l92 headed 6.0. Very similar to what you are thinking of doing.

M6 car

Iron block 6.0. - stock cubes.
L92 heads milled to 64cc chamber.
TSP 233/239 .595/.605 114LSA
1-3/4 kooks longtubes
ls3 42lb/hr injectors
l76 intake
off brand 90mm throttle body
ls7 lifters

Dyno operator had to let off at 5300rpm due to driveline vibration. (later found out i had a dent in my driveshaft).
The rate of rise in hp over rpm im guessing it will be reeeeaalll close to 450.

And IIRC i had over .100" PTV at TDC.

How much did you mill to get 64cc chambers? .030"?
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Old Feb 23, 2012 | 01:51 AM
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[QUOTE=Outlaw E36;15999899]This is very similar to what I had In mind. Who did the porting and how much did it cost you.? What was the cc on your heads.? I hope I get lucky and get good numbers like yours



Heads were stock CC and the exhaust was just ported at home.(I do Almost all my own machine work) I didn't see hogging out heads that flow 340's stock. Was looking to keep some type of velocity. I know milling to get compression is CHEAPER, but I have seen to many lose power by shrinking down the chamber. Pistons are always gonna cost more but I believe you will make more power. Especially when you are using a 2.16 intake valve.
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