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Old Sep 7, 2012 | 01:11 PM
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Default **Valve Spring Recommendations**

Just a street car... 6.2L w/ slightly milled LS3 heads & running a 230/242 602/605 113LSA cam.

I want a dual spring... any recommendations?
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Old Sep 8, 2012 | 06:57 AM
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PSI, 1512. Call PSI and have them match the springs to your cam.
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Old Sep 8, 2012 | 07:43 AM
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Please consider my Dual Polished Platinum spring kit, part number SK001. With 155 lbs on the seat they will control valve seating/bounce better than the 1512, yet are only 380 lbs @ .600" lift to ensure valve tip durability. These springs were the best of the bunch in the spintron testing that I was involved in. http://www.briantooleyracing.com/660...retainers.html
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 10:19 PM
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I've apparently been naive on my thoughts on springs... I kinda figured a spring was a spring and there were very little differences b/t one dual spring and another.
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 11:03 PM
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I run Brian Tooley dual springs on my ls3 vette with Arun from CCP stage2 blower cam.
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 11:17 PM
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Brian tooley platinums man, only way to go!
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 07:57 AM
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Will you share this spintron testing showing the difference between your springs and the alternatives?
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DANSBIRD
I've apparently been naive on my thoughts on springs... I kinda figured a spring was a spring and there were very little differences b/t one dual spring and another.
Whole bunch of factors to consider, single vs dual spring, installed height, open seat pressure, coilbind, etc etc
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Mell00
Will you share this spintron testing showing the difference between your springs and the alternatives?
The Fair Competition Agreement I signed with Summit Racing doesn't allow me to share that exact information. The information remains the property of Summit Racing. Sorry.

I can tell you that spring pressure is a balancing act between controlling the valve train and pole vaulting the pushrods. Simply throwing more spring pressure at the valve train isn't the best approach, especially if stock rocker arms are used.

For what it's worth, the winner of the LS Fest True Street class this past weekend was sporting the Platinum spring kit. Anthony Peck went back to back 8.50's-8.60's and then ran a 8.31 @ 166 later in testing. His 1/8 mile was still off a tenth compared to his best of 5.20's @ 133. His LS2 402 actually has a complete BTR top end consisting of a custom set of TFS 235 heads with PM guides, BTR custom spec'd hydraulic roller cam, pushrods, and STOCK rocker arms.

The cam lobe design is really the foundation of a stable valve train.
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 10:56 AM
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Ok.
Who makes them for you?
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tainted
Whole bunch of factors to consider, single vs dual spring, installed height, open seat pressure, coilbind, etc etc
Thanks... Other than the info I put in the OP, I currently don't know what else to go w/ in order to determine which spring I need to run. I do want to run a dual spring though. I've already dropped 1 valve... I don't want to drop another one.
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Oh.. and FWIW, It's 95% of the time a street car and rarely ever taken to the track. I'm not too hard on the car at all.
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Originally Posted by Brian Tooley

The cam lobe design is really the foundation of a stable valve train.
Forgive my ignorance here, but can you expound on this a little? What do I need to look for/ask to find this out?
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Originally Posted by DANSBIRD
Forgive my ignorance here, but can you expound on this a little? What do I need to look for/ask to find this out?
With stock rockers you want to stay away from super fast ramp speed cam lobes and high lift, keep the lift below .630".

The fastest ramp speed cam lobes that I use with stock rockers are the LSL which is what the LSr shelf cams use. The LXL are a little softer and work better for durability, some of the Extreme Marine, HUC, Extreme RPM for LS1, and Cheater HR lift rule work well too.
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Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
With stock rockers you want to stay away from super fast ramp speed cam lobes and high lift, keep the lift below .630".

The fastest ramp speed cam lobes that I use with stock rockers are the LSL which is what the LSr shelf cams use. The LXL are a little softer and work better for durability, some of the Extreme Marine, HUC, Extreme RPM for LS1, and Cheater HR lift rule work well too.
Good. that's covered. The cam is a 230/242 602/605 113LSA.
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Originally Posted by DANSBIRD
Good. that's covered. The cam is a 230/242 602/605 113LSA.
Looks good! My Platinum spring kit will work like a champ with that cam.
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 03:16 PM
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I run Patriot GOLDs with my Tsunami camshaft but my next set will be Brian Tooley's. I hear the Patriots only last for a few thousand miles.
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
Looks good! My Platinum spring kit will work like a champ with that cam.
And how much of a fortune will your platinum spring kit run me? :o
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 03:40 PM
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What make Brian Tooley's springs so good? How much does a BT dual spring run me?
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http://www.briantooleyracing.com/650...retainers.html

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