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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 08:54 AM
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How reliable is VVT when used in a performance application ?

Are there any "down-sides" to using it ?

Is is compatible with all LS blocks and aftermarket Timing Sets ?
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 12:15 PM
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I believe you need a block that is set up for it like the Gen4 blocks. It uses oil pressure to advance and retard the camshaft. Well actually spring pressure for the advance. I don't know about the aftermarket stuff as most I have seen are using the factory components except for a "block" that limits the amount of advance when using a high performance camshaft. That is so the valves don't hit the pistons.

No downside that I can see. More and more people are now getting 500rwhp using VVT. On the Camaro5 forum the faster cars seem to be the ones retaining VVT. I kept mine on my L92 motor. A lot of discussion about VVT on the Camaro5 forum if you are interested.

Now DOD is another story but you did not ask about that.
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I believe you need a block that is set up for it like the Gen4 blocks. It uses oil pressure to advance and retard the camshaft. Well actually spring pressure for the advance. I don't know about the aftermarket stuff as most I have seen are using the factory components except for a "block" that limits the amount of advance when using a high performance camshaft. That is so the valves don't hit the pistons.

No downside that I can see. More and more people are now getting 500rwhp using VVT. On the Camaro5 forum the faster cars seem to be the ones retaining VVT. I kept mine on my L92 motor. A lot of discussion about VVT on the Camaro5 forum if you are interested.

Now DOD is another story but you did not ask about that.
I've heard that it is possible to use VVT in GEN III blocks . . . ???

As for DOD & AFM, not interested in either of those.
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"I've heard that it is possible to use VVT in GEN III blocks . . . ???"

I don't know. You would have to transfer parts and up grade to a 58X crankshaft among other things. To me it would be easier to just buy one in a junk yard such as the LY6.
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ez2cdave
How reliable is VVT when used in a performance application ?

Are there any "down-sides" to using it ?

Is is compatible with all LS blocks and aftermarket Timing Sets ?

There are no down sides to it in a performance application or any application!

It is compatible with all ls blocks but it uses a single roller timing chain and a VVT gear (can not use aftermarket timing sets) and a VVT front cover! Of course you would have to use a ECM that could drive it! And yes you would need a 58X wheel on the crank also!

The cam also has to be a VVT core! The VVT gear uses oil pressure to retard the cam only it can't advance it!

I have a 2013 Camaro with a small VVT cam and made 504 RWHP and also ran 10.93 @ 126.86 on drag radials the first time out!
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Old Mar 15, 2014 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by trw427ssrs
There are no down sides to it in a performance application or any application!

It is compatible with all ls blocks but it uses a single roller timing chain and a VVT gear (can not use aftermarket timing sets) and a VVT front cover! Of course you would have to use a ECM that could drive it! And yes you would need a 58X wheel on the crank also!

The cam also has to be a VVT core! The VVT gear uses oil pressure to retard the cam only it can't advance it!

I have a 2013 Camaro with a small VVT cam and made 504 RWHP and also ran 10.93 @ 126.86 on drag radials the first time out!
VVT Technology has great performance potential in LS and Gen V LT1 applications. Recently developed a pat pending to tool unlock the cam phaser to check piston to valve clearance when the cam is fully retarded. Awesome 10.93/126 run on drag radials!


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I think I'll wait a while before trying VVT. I might buy the setup, so I have it on hand, down the road. I think the GM parts run less than $500, right ?

I hope the aftermarket can address the Timing Set situation.

Does it use the LS2 chain or is it a totally different setup ?
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Originally Posted by ez2cdave
I think I'll wait a while before trying VVT. I might buy the setup, so I have it on hand, down the road. I think the GM parts run less than $500, right ?

I hope the aftermarket can address the Timing Set situation.

Does it use the LS2 chain or is it a totally different setup ?
It uses the same chain as a LS1,2 or 3 but the best chain to use is a C5R chain!
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Originally Posted by trw427ssrs
It uses the same chain as a LS1,2 or 3 but the best chain to use is a C5R chain!
I thought the C5R was a Double-Roller ?

Do you have a part # for the C5R chain or are they available aftermarket ?
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Originally Posted by ez2cdave
I thought the C5R was a Double-Roller ?

Do you have a part # for the C5R chain or are they available aftermarket ?
No its a single roller!
Katech Timing Chain, C5R Part # KAT-HME-G68V-2.
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Originally Posted by trw427ssrs
No its a single roller!
Katech Timing Chain, C5R Part # KAT-HME-G68V-2.
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