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Old Feb 28, 2015 | 05:53 AM
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I'm finishing assembly of my ls7 topped 434. I have measured out pushrod length but not sure which kind to get and I'm looking for suggestions and why. Mostly street car with a few strip passes here and there.
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Call Manton.
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Originally Posted by maroonls1z
I'm finishing assembly of my ls7 topped 434. I have measured out pushrod length but not sure which kind to get and I'm looking for suggestions and why. Mostly street car with a few strip passes here and there.
The biggest ones that will fit. There is no downside.
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I'm going with Mantons i just need to do the measuring for them length call them they will steer you in the right direction!
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I'm assuming I should be looking at some for of restrictive pushrod
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I like to use 3/8 x .082 wall with a .030 oil restrictor.

So a restrictor why? the push rods oil restrictor holes are .080 diam. at 35 to 74 psi is way to much oil directed solely to lubricate single rocker arm, even at 5 psi it's way more than adequate or necessary.

So lets' take a close look at how a restrictor can benefit the performance oriented engine.

Lets put it this way if we can keep oil as a well managed asset we can have the piece of mind and security we deserve when we dump so much money in to our ride, "knowing" and this is power, yes is powerful when you are so sure you don't even worry about a oil pressure gauge at all.

But if you are not sure you will need one and there's enough reason why you should.

That is so unless you know where your oil should go and in what volume,

Prioritizing lubrication is important, here's how it works in a nut shell.

Take a .080 restrictor hole and reduce that to .030 do the math, that's 62.5 % more oil flow redirected to your rods and main bearings from that single one push rod along, take that and multiply times 16 pushrods and what do you have? Mucho mas oil going to your engines main and rod bearings, remember you never restricted oil going to the cam and the lifters, as the restrictor is after the oil went true the lifter, in fact you slow down the oil bleed true the lifters and the cam going somewhere else and use that additional oil to their own lubrication enhancement.

So now you can take a .050 needless bleed savings per pushrod and use your own calculator and figure out how much peace of mind I been enjoying while you worry about your oil pressure gauge.

But you still not sure, ok do this take a tube of some kind drill a .030 hole in it and put motor oil of your choice true it at only 5 psi see if you can rely in that amount of oil to keep enough lubrication on one rocker arm, cause that is all that oil is going to lubricate ones past true the pushrod.

So did you do the math? the answer is .8

3/8 are 74% stronger then 5/16 of same thickness as measure in crush resistance test.

When ever 3/8 is possible to use must aftermarket ls7 heads are clearance for 3/8 push rods.

Must factory heads are not.

So you say that's a lot of bla-bla-bla, opps this was not for the wicket but for the wise.
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Well I have ported oem ls7 heads so the 3/8 won't fit?
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Cam,
Makes perfect sense. Thanks for sharing.
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What happens when you add a HV/HP oil pump to the mix are the restrictors still that important?
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I was somewhat curious of this myself since I have a high pressure pump
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Call Manton they have a nice 11/32 .105 wall with a restricted hole.

Had a set of these in dads car for 20,000 miles no issues

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Another vote for Manton.

On top of being able to get larger diameters and thicker walls, you can order them whatever length u need, versus set increments. The devil is in the details.
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Originally Posted by Gray86hatch

Had a set of these in dads car for 20,000 miles no issues

Tim
so he had problem after 20K then? lol
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Originally Posted by 6togo
I'm going with Mantons i just need to do the measuring for them length call them they will steer you in the right direction!
I've ordered a few sets from Manton. Note, they will make you anything you want down to 0.001".
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Old Mar 3, 2015 | 02:05 PM
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I like to use 3/8 x .082 wall with a .030 oil restrictor.

So a restrictor why? the push rods oil restrictor holes are .080 diam. at 35 to 74 psi is way to much oil directed solely to lubricate single rocker arm, even at 5 psi it's way more than adequate or necessary.

So lets' take a close look at how a restrictor can benefit the performance oriented engine.

Lets put it this way if we can keep oil as a well managed asset we can have the piece of mind and security we deserve when we dump so much money in to our ride, "knowing" and this is power, yes is powerful when you are so sure you don't even worry about a oil pressure gauge at all.

But if you are not sure you will need one and there's enough reason why you should.

That is so unless you know where your oil should go and in what volume,

Prioritizing lubrication is important, here's how it works in a nut shell.

Take a .080 restrictor hole and reduce that to .030 do the math, that's 62.5 % more oil flow redirected to your rods and main bearings
from that single one push rod along, take that and multiply times 16 pushrods and what do you have? Mucho mas oil going to your engines main and rod bearings, remember you never restricted oil going to the cam and the lifters, as the restrictor is after the oil went true the lifter, in fact you slow down the oil bleed true the lifters and the cam going somewhere else and use that additional oil to their own lubrication enhancement.

So now you can take a .050 needless bleed savings per pushrod and use your own calculator and figure out how much peace of mind I been enjoying while you worry about your oil pressure gauge.

But you still not sure, ok do this take a tube of some kind drill a .030 hole in it and put motor oil of your choice true it at only 5 psi see if you can rely in that amount of oil to keep enough lubrication on one rocker arm, cause that is all that oil is going to lubricate ones past true the pushrod.

So did you do the math? the answer is .8

3/8 are 74% stronger then 5/16 of same thickness as measure in crush resistance test.

When ever 3/8 is possible to use must aftermarket ls7 heads are clearance for 3/8 push rods.

Must factory heads are not.

So you say that's a lot of bla-bla-bla, opps this was not for the wicket but for the wise.
You would have to know the volume going through one pushrod and the volume going elsewhere. You are comparing a volume going through the pushrods with no idea how much already goes through the crank, cam bearings. So, I'm not sure your comparison is correct.
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Take a .080 restrictor hole and reduce that to .030 do the math, that's 62.5 % more oil flow redirected to your rods and main bearings from that single one push rod along, take that and multiply times 16 pushrods and what do you have? Mucho mas oil going to your engines main and rod bearings
I don't think you know how math works son.

By your calculations, reducing an aready very tiny hole by a little more than half you gain 1000% more oil elsewhere?
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No that is just how many miles are on it.

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Originally Posted by maroonls1z
Well I have ported oem ls7 heads so the 3/8 won't fit?
Stock ls7 pushrods are 3/8..

I move to a thicker wall 3/8 everytime
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Originally Posted by CAMSTER
I like to use 3/8 x .082 wall with a .030 oil restrictor.

So a restrictor why? the push rods oil restrictor holes are .080 diam. at 35 to 74 psi is way to much oil directed solely to lubricate single rocker arm, even at 5 psi it's way more than adequate or necessary.


So you say that's a lot of bla-bla-bla, opps this was not for the wicket but for the wise.
I trimmed down your quote to make a point. Priority main oiling takes care of all of what you said. So does dry sump.

I would use a manton 3/8 double taper with .120 wall if you are going to rev it very high. Otherwise .080.
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