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Old Sep 6, 2015 | 08:25 PM
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Hey guys. I'm doing an ERL dry sleeved 430 with some PRC LS7 265's... my cam is custom spec'd cam motion grind, 243/259 .667"/.645" 113.5+4...

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How much static compression can I get away with on this thing with California's 91 pump gas?
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Old Sep 6, 2015 | 08:38 PM
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I am running 11.4 on my 427 and California 91 octane pump gas. I would not want to go more than that. My dynamic is around 8.5.
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I have no idea what my dynamic is.. kinda hoping someone can tell me. I was thinking 11.6, off the top of my head... but I want to be safe.
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Old Sep 6, 2015 | 10:16 PM
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The other couple of tenths are not worth it for the small horsepower gain. I have a friend with the same motor I have here in California but he just upgraded his heads and went with 12:1 compression. He adds Torco octane booster to keep detonation in check. The reason he went that route is he participates in Drag Week which I believe starts in about a week.
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With that much cam you could go 11.5:1 with a good tune. I had plenty of cushion with my setup on 93 and smaller cam.

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Old Sep 8, 2015 | 01:59 AM
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With the cam you have advanced 4 degrees I wouldn't go over 11 to 1 no way no how so you can run some timing won't do you any good to run lots of compression if you have to detune to do so.

10.7 would be my choice if I was doing that build to hopefully run 26 degrees wide open throttle total advance cause I know it will make some power while running happy.
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With the cam you have advanced 4 degrees I wouldn't go over 11 to 1 no way no how so you can run some timing won't do you any good to run lots of compression if you have to detune to do so.

10.7 would be my choice if I was doing that build to hopefully run 26 degrees wide open throttle total advance cause I know it will make some power while running happy.
Just seems low... Thanks for chiming in.
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Old Sep 8, 2015 | 11:11 AM
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Who spec'd the cam? That's who I'd ask.
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I'd ask whoever will be tuning it. They'll know what will give you the best performance returns.

A lot will come into play to calculate static and dynamic compression. Chamber cc, head gasket thickness, piston to deck measurement, lobe centerlines...

You can get some decent, general ideas here on the forum of what you can get away with on Cali 91, but your tuner is who you should ultimately listen to.
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Originally Posted by eaglegoat
Who spec'd the cam? That's who I'd ask.
Originally Posted by SHovV
I'd ask whoever will be tuning it......
I wouldn't ask the cam guy.....I'd ask my tuner.

Originally Posted by 1989GTA
I am running 11.4 on my 427 and California 91 octane pump gas. I would not want to go more than that. My dynamic is around 8.5.
Yeah.....low 11's with 91 octane. I would aim for about 11.2 or 11.3:1. I'd also want my quench to be in the .030" to .035" range.....but that's just me.

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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by KW Baraka
I wouldn't ask the cam guy.....I'd ask my tuner.

Yeah.....low 11's with 91 octane. I would aim for about 11.2 or 11.3:1. I'd also want my quench to be in the .030" to .035" range.....but that's just me.

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I've got a customer who's running 11.2 static with 9+(ish) dynamic. On AZ 91 octane. On the break-in tune it made 500/530 (418 stroker), very rich and only 18*. It's now up to in the mid 20's timing. No new dyno numbers. I spec'd the cam.
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