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Old 04-13-2017 | 08:06 AM
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Coefficient of Discharge trumps about any other measure of efficiency of a head. Also, the CSA is extremely important. The CofD is better and the CSA is smaller.

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His web site says intake runners are 264cc and the exhaust runners are 104cc.

Both larger than stock.

Also......the advertised intake flow for these heads are at or below the same level as several other aftermarket offerings that have smaller intake ports.

Not sayin' that these aren't good heads.....but lets keep it real.

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Old 04-13-2017 | 08:10 AM
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Are they 6 bolt?
4 or 6 bolt. You get to pick.
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Originally Posted by KW Baraka
His web site says intake runners are 264cc and the exhaust runners are 104cc.

Both larger than stock.

Also......the advertised intake flow for these heads are at or below the same level as several other aftermarket offerings that have smaller intake ports.

Not sayin' that these aren't good heads.....but lets keep it real.

KW
One thing I've learned over the years is flow numbers don't always paint the full picture.
Old 04-13-2017 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnDaMan
700+ rwhp on a N/A 441LSX isn't proof enough lol? And that's a hydraulic roller cam too.
what intake ?
Old 04-13-2017 | 09:39 AM
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Holley HiRam
Old 04-13-2017 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
One thing I've learned over the years is flow numbers don't always paint the full picture.

Flow numbers alone are actually a poor way to chose a head
Old 04-13-2017 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnDaMan
700+ rwhp on a N/A 441LSX isn't proof enough lol? And that's a hydraulic roller cam too.
Is there a build thread or more details available somewhere on this build? I am interested in reading more...
Old 04-13-2017 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by carbuff
Is there a build thread or more details available somewhere on this build? I am interested in reading more...
You not the only one....
Old 04-13-2017 | 12:58 PM
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Here are some pictures of the port work on the LS3 Haymaker heads.



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Originally Posted by carbuff
Is there a build thread or more details available somewhere on this build? I am interested in reading more...
Yep I will get all the details
Old 04-13-2017 | 02:14 PM
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The Z06 has a LME built bottom end, Brodix Br7 12* heads with 2.250/1.615 valves and 50* VJ ported by Gavin @ SAM, Holley HiRam ported by Gavin @ SAM, cam spec'd by Martin Smallwood, 12:1 CR, E85 and 710whp. Heads flowed 440cfm.
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12:1 and E85? Isn't that low compression for an E85 setup?

Unfortunately since it' s E85 it does help my own cause a lot, as I'm a 91/93 octane setup. Thanx though...
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Originally Posted by carbuff
12:1 and E85? Isn't that low compression for an E85 setup?

Unfortunately since it' s E85 it does help my own cause a lot, as I'm a 91/93 octane setup. Thanx though...
I didn't build it but yeah it seems slightly low for E85. I am assuming he can, and does, run 93 if E is not available. 12:1 is not out of the question for 93, depends on the cam timing.

BTW this car eclipses 1000 @ the tire with a 250 direct port shot.
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I'd like to see how they perform with a D1X feeding them air.
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11 degree head? What's the base head? MAST?
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
One thing I've learned over the years is flow numbers don't always paint the full picture.
I agree....flow is only part of the picture. But my comments are directed towards the statements that the heads are flowing 'impressive' amounts of air with smaller than stock ports.....and I don't see that.

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Old 04-14-2017 | 02:07 AM
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http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh....php?t=1905482
Old 04-14-2017 | 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
Mods- Delete Munny above- troll
Originally Posted by G Atsma
What a load of gibberish! This clown is a TROLL!!
Nah.....not gibberish if you know the 'history' and can put the comments in proper context.

My guess is that it's 'Dark Energy', AKA 'Lil John'.......a long time member who's been banned at least twice.

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Old 04-14-2017 | 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by KW Baraka
Nah.....not gibberish if you know the 'history' and can put the comments in proper context.

My guess is that it's 'Dark Energy', AKA 'Lil John'.

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AKA waste of everyone's time
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
AKA waste of everyone's time
Some would say so......probably why he get's hit over the head with the "Banned Stick".....

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