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Old 09-08-2017, 08:01 PM
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Default Broken Block "Professionally Repaired"; Carnage Inside

So I just wanted to share an experience I had this week. Long story short, I bought a Camaro a few weeks ago and it turned out to be a real POS, as did the guy who sold it to me. It has an LS3 shortblock with a stupid cam, 243 heads, longtubes, and an LS6 intake. It wasn't perfect so I expected to have to fix a few small things but I ended up having to pull the engine and trans after finding this...









It looks like the engine kicked a rod and someone tried to weld the pieces back on. You can see in the last photo how the pan rail bows in at least .080-.100", so they slathered on grey RTV to keep it from leaking oil. Both #4 and #5 main cap side bolt holes were welded in so they didn't even have a bolt in them.

Luckily I have an incomplete LS swapped Mustang that hasn't gotten any attention in a while. I pulled the engine out today and will hopefully have it in this Camaro this weekend.
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I hope you got it for a decent price. It amazes me people can sleep at night after knowingly
ripping people off like that.
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Wow. What a nightmare! What Slogo said hits it right!
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WOW!!! Thats some sweeeet work right there...

Look at that cylinder too...

Did it get damage up near the cam and lifter bore area too???

How the rest of the junk inside the engine look???
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Did he at least use JB Weld?
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Wow, just wow. I can only imagine the excuses that the seller must have said to you, upon you confronting him on this garbage.
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Originally Posted by Che70velle
.......you confronting him on this garbage.
Not sure that happened yet..... be with us for the next episode of "The Reassembled Grenade"
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No surprise, the seller claims he didn't know. He said he paid a guy to do the swap and the guy supplied the engine. Haven't heard from him since our little talk...



There was glitter in the oil too so when I tore it down, most of the bearings where coming apart. Some of the rods are blue like they had spun bearings before and they just threw new bearings in and sent it. Everything else is in decent shape so I'm probably gonna sell off what I can. It had some crazy 228/248 @ .050" blower cam in it and it's naturally aspirated.
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Wow. 20deg. split on the cam! Blower alright! How fitting, on a previously "blown" engine. Who knows if the guy is blowing smoke, or got screwed... I hope you can get some compensation somehow, KCS! Interesting story, nonetheless!
What kind of shape was the rest of the car in, if I may ask?
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Originally Posted by G Atsma
Wow. 20deg. split on the cam! Blower alright! How fitting, on a previously "blown" engine. Who knows if the guy is blowing smoke, or got screwed... I hope you can get some compensation somehow, KCS! Interesting story, nonetheless!
What kind of shape was the rest of the car in, if I may ask?
Haha, yeah I guess that it is a "blown" engine!

The rest of the car isn't great, but it's not too bad. The body is pretty straight but has some chipped paint on the hood and a couple other spots. No back seats, the carpet was cut behind the front seats, and of course the passenger side window doesn't work. It's a T-top car so when Harvey came through and the inside was dry, I was happy with that.
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Doubting there will be a "can this block be salvaged" sequel on this one
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Probably wouldn't of hurt to throw it up in the air and have a look underneath before purchase, that's how most folks do it. Hope ya didn't have to pay too much for that scrap metal.
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The famous " starter surprise " .
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looks like it came out of a Top Fuel Dragster
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Originally Posted by NHRAFORMULA00
looks like it came out of a Top Fuel Dragster
... on its final run...
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Originally Posted by NHRAFORMULA00
looks like it came out of a Top Fuel Dragster
Funny. I looked at a couple of those pics like molten aluminum. I did have a momentary hydrazine thought run through my head...
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"i'll talk to them but i doubt they will pay 1000"

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"yeah I knew it was fucked but im gonna go with this story someone else did it to me first like that makes it ok"

glad your response was "give me their contact info" lol straight called em out!
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Originally Posted by truckdoug
"i'll talk to them but i doubt they will pay 1000"

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"yeah I knew it was fucked but im gonna go with this story someone else did it to me first like that makes it ok"

glad your response was "give me their contact info" lol straight called em out!
If he really did pay someone to do the work, I'd be doing the automotive industry a disservice not to blast the idiot on every local forum I can so that no one else gets screwed. I mean for christ's sake, the little schrader valve wasn't even installed on the fuel rail so the only thing holding the fuel pressure was that little black plastic cap.

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KCS, I hope you get the $1000 for the new block. It really sucks some low life did that.
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It's no wonder that thing didn't leak fuel and blow up...

If he did legitimately have someone do the work and it was a so called "professional shop" with an invoice, I would not only put them on blast but make sure they were reported to BAR.

Likely, if it wasn't him that did the actual work it was probably a friend of a friend or a craigslist special...


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