Mast Motorsport de-stroked Ls7 found a home.
09-12-2017, 09:49 PM
#23
10 Second Club
09-12-2017, 09:53 PM
#24
TECH Senior Member
09-12-2017, 11:33 PM
#25
Nope but I use too and get it dirt cheap for grade A fish scale. BTW they call me Paco LOL.
Blk00ss believe me I understand & I hope you get what your asking. I had no Intention to make a race truck. Just a powerful street truck with No roll cage coming out the back window. My buddy uncle Jim aka Pro Comp said your making a race truck I said it's a street truck. He said race truck.... Guess what it is. A damn race truck. My Suspenion guy said he's not doing anything Unless I run a cage. And it's not because of the track regulations. I'd twist the frame. I only asked that the cage Does Not come out my back window. With that being said I figure a S10 with what I've done already it should weigh around 2800. I have no class I'm not there to do that so tire size rules does not apply. Test, tune run my time and I'm done. The track Breaks Parts. Quote from Jim. I have 4 friends here and YB with the same basic combination @ around the same weight. All run 5's and 9's in the quarter. Killer thing is I should have at min 40 to 50 more hp on paper alone. That's just for Ls3 heads. The cam Marty made for you is nice and should help. He made my 1st one also had to have it reground as I picked 1.8 rockers and not 1.7 like he stated it had 757 lift now it's 730 lift and I added 4 degrees while it was out it's now 260. That's just the pump gas heads.
Blk00ss believe me I understand & I hope you get what your asking. I had no Intention to make a race truck. Just a powerful street truck with No roll cage coming out the back window. My buddy uncle Jim aka Pro Comp said your making a race truck I said it's a street truck. He said race truck.... Guess what it is. A damn race truck. My Suspenion guy said he's not doing anything Unless I run a cage. And it's not because of the track regulations. I'd twist the frame. I only asked that the cage Does Not come out my back window. With that being said I figure a S10 with what I've done already it should weigh around 2800. I have no class I'm not there to do that so tire size rules does not apply. Test, tune run my time and I'm done. The track Breaks Parts. Quote from Jim. I have 4 friends here and YB with the same basic combination @ around the same weight. All run 5's and 9's in the quarter. Killer thing is I should have at min 40 to 50 more hp on paper alone. That's just for Ls3 heads. The cam Marty made for you is nice and should help. He made my 1st one also had to have it reground as I picked 1.8 rockers and not 1.7 like he stated it had 757 lift now it's 730 lift and I added 4 degrees while it was out it's now 260. That's just the pump gas heads.
09-13-2017, 12:37 AM
#28
I'm a Silly dude I like laughing it keeps me out of trouble but, It's all about knowing what your asking for and knowing who to deal with to get what your asking. Hell I went and found Mr. Coleman aka 9's and 8's Camaro. I follow those who've done what I'm asking. And I go Find them Anywhere in the World. Called China for casting Heads. LOL. BTW Jim and Mr Coleman were competitors back in the day. The right guy or people is the key! I've called more people asking ?'s and Made more friends than Most here ask ?'s. Fact! Btw they don't post you just gotta know someone. Like Kerry @ Proline etc ....or ER .... don't forget my buddy at Johnson lifter. All Engines Are the Same Ls engines just come with better factory heads cheaper. Easy Hp. That's all. I don't need high end stuff to run a 8 or 9. Factory stuff will do. Ask Darth about the BB 500+ cid 60's Camaro with a Fogger kit. It's not for the track. LOL! Been there done that.
Last edited by Patron; 09-13-2017 at 01:04 AM.
09-13-2017, 06:37 AM
#29
Hammer I Know you like cylinder heads. Some of you guys will say go buy these heads I say I can make my own for the same price. Key word is make my own I'm not big on names just getting the job done.
That avatar is My own ProComp as cast Ls7 head created just for me and my bore size. Get a load of this it cost me $6 or for normal people $600 was the initiational invest I don't waste money. Could have bought Mast Medium bore heads but add to that me sending them off to Darin. Because my heads will Always be sent out for reworking. Welded chambers this go round for a smaller exhaust valve. 1.55 and a sweet hand job on porting. Total was around $2700 but to me priceless as I basically created something from nothing which some say are crap. They said it couldn't be done or to costly. Funny. By the numbers and as normal I had everything verified by West Side Performance. You guys talk heads...... this and that. I understand there better casting but get a load of this. I try to make or create things rather than buy things. And a lot of those heads are hyped as far as cfm. It's not the heads it's the porter I just need the castings also knowing who does fast car heads. I get on sometimes and I just laugh. Just go buy a set of these heads for x amount. Again funny. The same head shouldn't go all engines, Engine size and RPM dictates how big a head should be. By the numbers and compare against any aftermarket for the same bore size I did as my moneys gone now. I'm happy LOL.
2.200 Titanium stock LS7 intake
1.550 Ferrea 24° exhaust no pipe D-port
Flowed on 4.060 bore 28” TP
CCFM
Lift No. 1 No. 2
-------- ------- -------
0.2000 111.2 165.2
0.3000 167.2 238.7
0.4000 191.3 300.6
0.5000 213.8 336.2
0.6000 219.9 360.1
0.7000 222.8 379.7
0.8000 225.0 370.0
Intake runner entry : height 6.1 cm X width 3.5 cm barely even touch the runner and hand ported them to perfection. No cnc!
The as cast versions are 250 cc before Angry Darin got to them: height 6.0 X width 3.3 cm I like knowing. Compare FRH Ls3 heads to these and you SEE the difference and why Ls7 heads make more hp. Their Huge in comparison on the intake entry size thats how Ls3 heads are made. Measure any Ls3 port entry ? Their all big some aftermarket just shrink the runners. The entry is still big. Remember I started off with a 6 dollar head. LOL! Also runner CC honestly is pointless you need the CSA. Fact! Ask me how do I know, the Ls3 heads have Less CC's @ 267 vs 27ish for Ls7 heads yet the Ls7 heads have a tiny CSA in comparison. I got Darth with that 1. You can see that just eyeballing. It's Huge in comparison. Think outside the box as their all the same in what a engine wants and needs. This isn't intended towards no 1 I just feel others should see & know how to out think stuff. And learn something in the process. That's what's it's all about.
That avatar is My own ProComp as cast Ls7 head created just for me and my bore size. Get a load of this it cost me $6 or for normal people $600 was the initiational invest I don't waste money. Could have bought Mast Medium bore heads but add to that me sending them off to Darin. Because my heads will Always be sent out for reworking. Welded chambers this go round for a smaller exhaust valve. 1.55 and a sweet hand job on porting. Total was around $2700 but to me priceless as I basically created something from nothing which some say are crap. They said it couldn't be done or to costly. Funny. By the numbers and as normal I had everything verified by West Side Performance. You guys talk heads...... this and that. I understand there better casting but get a load of this. I try to make or create things rather than buy things. And a lot of those heads are hyped as far as cfm. It's not the heads it's the porter I just need the castings also knowing who does fast car heads. I get on sometimes and I just laugh. Just go buy a set of these heads for x amount. Again funny. The same head shouldn't go all engines, Engine size and RPM dictates how big a head should be. By the numbers and compare against any aftermarket for the same bore size I did as my moneys gone now. I'm happy LOL.
2.200 Titanium stock LS7 intake
1.550 Ferrea 24° exhaust no pipe D-port
Flowed on 4.060 bore 28” TP
CCFM
Lift No. 1 No. 2
-------- ------- -------
0.2000 111.2 165.2
0.3000 167.2 238.7
0.4000 191.3 300.6
0.5000 213.8 336.2
0.6000 219.9 360.1
0.7000 222.8 379.7
0.8000 225.0 370.0
Intake runner entry : height 6.1 cm X width 3.5 cm barely even touch the runner and hand ported them to perfection. No cnc!
The as cast versions are 250 cc before Angry Darin got to them: height 6.0 X width 3.3 cm I like knowing. Compare FRH Ls3 heads to these and you SEE the difference and why Ls7 heads make more hp. Their Huge in comparison on the intake entry size thats how Ls3 heads are made. Measure any Ls3 port entry ? Their all big some aftermarket just shrink the runners. The entry is still big. Remember I started off with a 6 dollar head. LOL! Also runner CC honestly is pointless you need the CSA. Fact! Ask me how do I know, the Ls3 heads have Less CC's @ 267 vs 27ish for Ls7 heads yet the Ls7 heads have a tiny CSA in comparison. I got Darth with that 1. You can see that just eyeballing. It's Huge in comparison. Think outside the box as their all the same in what a engine wants and needs. This isn't intended towards no 1 I just feel others should see & know how to out think stuff. And learn something in the process. That's what's it's all about.
Last edited by Patron; 09-14-2017 at 12:44 AM.
09-13-2017, 08:42 AM
#31
TECH Enthusiast
09-13-2017, 11:04 AM
#33
TECH Senior Member
And then there are those who are TRULY LEGENDS in their own MIND! (Howard Cosell paraphrase?)
09-13-2017, 11:39 AM
#35
10 Second Club
09-13-2017, 12:20 PM
#36
Hammer what was you final cost just for heads and porting. Anyone can just go send heads to someone and not learn a darn thing. Get them back and say look what I have. Yea I am a legend I took something that does not work and made it work. Most of you would just jump on the normal train and just go out and spend $. Better word is groupies. Just go buy this and not know how it works because I'd say over 80% would think the intake valve was or is the problem. You don't learn anything from doing things that's been done over and over again. Also saying I have 1 of 1 is cool. Headed to Wyoming after just getting up. Show me the $.
Last edited by Patron; 09-13-2017 at 12:34 PM.
09-13-2017, 12:39 PM
#37
TECH Senior Member
But if what's done over and over actually WORKS!, that is what you do to get results. You can brag all you want and keep blowing your horn about how "I" did this or that, but it doesn't prove anything except you are making all the same mistakes that were made by the others who have already learned from them. The only thing you have proven is your loving to hear yourself talk or see your printed word.
09-13-2017, 12:53 PM
#38
Hammer what was you final cost just for heads and porting. Anyone can just go send heads to someone and not learn a darn thing. Get them back and say look what I have. Yea I am a legend I took something that does not work and made it work. Most of you would just jump on the normal train and just go out and spend $. Better word is groupies. Just go buy this and not know how it works because I'd say over 80% would think the intake valve was or is the problem. You don't learn anything from doing things that's been done over and over again. Also saying I have 1 of 1 is cool. Headed to Wyoming after just getting up. Show me the $.
09-13-2017, 12:55 PM
#39
I understand what your saying. But get this everyone Does not have a lot of $. So with that 600 bucks can be affordable to most. BTW the guy who did that 800 hp stock cubed Ls3 did the same thing without changing the exhaust valve and Told me what to look for and said your thinking. That's all I need to hear from on what I'm doing along with a few others.