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Old Feb 16, 2018 | 08:32 AM
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I have the vein and my Intake flow numbers are as follows - 145, 226, 308, 358, 394, 405 at 200, 300, 400, 500, 600 and 650
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Originally Posted by z0sicktanner
Yes almost all of the cnc programs leave the vien in the bowl. the only place that takes them out with cnc are advanced induction.
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There was vein in Trickflow CNC ported LS7 heads, but no in Mast 285 heads.
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Here is picture of unfinished intake port of LS7 head that i've been porting.

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Old Feb 18, 2018 | 02:34 AM
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[QUOTE=z0sicktanner;19836412]Not gonna share all my info but i posted pretty good bit of info on this over the years..low lift numbers don't mean **** to me when i can do this in 1500 ft d/a over an over...


Your yellow Z? Heads, cam, compression, fuel? In 1500' that's killer mph with a 1.6...
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 02:56 AM
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Old Feb 18, 2018 | 03:20 AM
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Is anyone ever measured how big HP difference there is between 370cfm heads and 400cfm heads? LS7 heads flows pretty damn good stock so i've been thinking how much power i gain when i spend many many nights porting and polishing them... Obviously there is big diccerence in cathedral heads when there is nearly 100cfm gains.
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Originally Posted by Fivethree twinturbo
Is anyone ever measured how big HP difference there is between 370cfm heads and 400cfm heads? LS7 heads flows pretty damn good stock so i've been thinking how much power i gain when i spend many many nights porting and polishing them... Obviously there is big diccerence in cathedral heads when there is nearly 100cfm gains.
I believe 20-30rw is the norm, and more cam, more gain.
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 07:55 AM
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Z06sicktanner - would you say a lot of the gains are not just in the intake port but working the exhaust port which on an LS7 head is a little weak from the factory. What flow numbers are you getting out of the exhaust ports with or without a tube. I see you have 99 cc exhaust port what are they like 92 cc from factory?
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Old Feb 18, 2018 | 07:57 AM
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I've also wondered how to how to improve LS7 exhaust port. Its a D-shaped so maybe making it round shaped?
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Hmmm, wondering if my new Mast 305cc will have the vein? Sounds like a no from looking at someones 285s on here...
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ramairws6
Hmmm, wondering if my new Mast 305cc will have the vein? Sounds like a no from looking at someones 285s on here...
No vein in Masts.
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Originally Posted by Fivethree twinturbo
I've also wondered how to how to improve LS7 exhaust port. Its a D-shaped so maybe making it round shaped?
Keeping the floor flat would be an advantage on the exhaust side. I think the improvements will be a valve job ,opening the throat to 90-91%, re working the bowl and guide, and just carrying that clean up throughout the port to increase overall volume. The exhaust is so weak in comparison, it seems you almost can't mess it up lol...
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 10:43 AM
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Well here is my finished exhaust port. What do you think?
Old Feb 18, 2018 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Fivethree twinturbo

Well here is my finished exhaust port. What do you think?
Looks good from here. Most important thing imo, what's the throat measure, just below the valve job, where the seat meets the head material. I wouldn't go anymore than 91% of the valve size. I would think the LS7 head isn't super sensitive to that measurement on the exhaust side like other heads may be, so may not be very critical here, but I am a nobody... Lol.
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Thanks! I look if i can get them to flow bench.
Old Feb 19, 2018 | 07:20 AM
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Nice work on the heads there.
Old Mar 5, 2018 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by z0sicktanner
Been porting the ls7 heads since 06 and I can tell you a few things about that swirl vein..

all the testing I've done was with die, the ls7 port will go turbulent at high lift.

Once this happens the air is being sucked back up the short side. also the wing seems to help with flow numbers but once die is injected into the port the truth shows its self. on all high lift cams its better to have them removed here is a cathedal heads with the wing same thing you see here the ls7 is doing then a picture of how I port them for big cam cars or fi. did this to my own car and eveyone has gained trap speed its helped for me...an after testing a set of AI heads on my own car with the vein removed been doing this way since.
The wing isn't why the port backs up, and there is no relevance to the wing vs valve lift.
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Originally Posted by WE TODD DID
The wing isn't why the port backs up, and there is no relevance to the wing vs valve lift.
First do you port heads? if not don't reply. I'll give you a list that says otherwise... Darin Morgan, Greg Good Chad lively Gavin at SPS did until he sold to AI. Phil at AI, LME Mast and a few others...but you port them they way you want..makes no diff to me...this is why i've stopped posting in over 2 years.. an will be my last...because of people like you...
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I've ported a set or two.

I do find it ironic that you mentioned Darin, since you like quoting him and taking it for your word.

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Old Feb 12, 2021 | 01:45 PM
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Lol.

My BES ported LS7 heads have the wing taken out but the port floor has a heavy amount of taper to it. Don't know how it compares to a factory port. I assume is slows down the air by the cylinder wall and tries to speed it up towards the center of the bore but I don't know. I haven't run these but I've heard good things. They're ~285cc. You can see witness of where the wing was but it is pretty much entirely gone.









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