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Old Mar 17, 2018 | 08:54 AM
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I have a new LS7 block that I bought pretty cheap. I want to make 1k at the tires and now I find out that many don't like that block. This will be a alcohol twin 61/62 turbo build. The car is extremely light weight and wont need big power to go fast. Its a race only car. Could I fill the block solid or have sleeves put inside the factory sleeves? I will be running LS7 heads also so I will need a fairly big bore. Just checking to see if anyone has tried this with any results. Thanks
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Old Mar 17, 2018 | 09:15 AM
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The weakness of the ls7 block is overplayed. Some guys have had issues but so have a lot of other blocks. But it is better as an NA block

Those things are worth money. You could sell it and buy a darton sleeved 5.3 block and be better off though IMO
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Old Mar 17, 2018 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff Dean
I have a new LS7 block that I bought pretty cheap. I want to make 1k at the tires and now I find out that many don't like that block. This will be a alcohol twin 61/62 turbo build. The car is extremely light weight and wont need big power to go fast. Its a race only car. Could I fill the block solid or have sleeves put inside the factory sleeves? I will be running LS7 heads also so I will need a fairly big bore. Just checking to see if anyone has tried this with any results. Thanks
do u find that ls7 is better then most others? ty
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Old Mar 17, 2018 | 03:24 PM
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I think an LS7 can be made to be just as strong as a sleeved 5.3, 6.0, etc.

The weakness in the factory block is the sleeve material and design. By replacing the factory press-in sleeves with a Darton sleeve that is made from better material, you gain the same strength as you would with the same sleeve in a 5.3/6.0/etc. block.

Call Steve at Race Engine Development and he can tell you all about it. (760) 630-0450
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Old Mar 17, 2018 | 03:42 PM
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The point is he can sell the $3000 ls7 block and buy a $1000 ls2 block if he’s just going to sleeve it.

The sleeved 5.3’s are the absolute strongest, but lose significant power at high rpm due to the lack of bay to bay breathing.
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Old Mar 17, 2018 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ColeGTO
I think an LS7 can be made to be just as strong as a sleeved 5.3, 6.0, etc.

The weakness in the factory block is the sleeve material and design. By replacing the factory press-in sleeves with a Darton sleeve that is made from better material, you gain the same strength as you would with the same sleeve in a 5.3/6.0/etc. block.

Call Steve at Race Engine Development and he can tell you all about it. (760) 630-0450
Agreed, but Hammers Point was that he would be money ahead to sell the
LS7 Block at a premium and buy a less expensive 5.3 pocketing the
difference. The cost to machine and sleeve I believe is the same and
Steve @ RED (the only place I would have that done) may have 5.3
block in stock and save shipping the LS7 to RED.
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Originally Posted by spanks13
The point is he can sell the $3000 ls7 block and buy a $1000 ls2 block if he’s just going to sleeve it.

The sleeved 5.3’s are the absolute strongest, but lose significant power at high rpm due to the lack of bay to bay breathing.
LOL beat me to the punch Spanks!
Steve can also put bay windows in by drilling I believe,
depends on RPM,best to discuss with Steve.
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I recently emailed Steve about his blocks. He said the hole in the cam tunnel still gives up power vs an ls2, even with a vacuum pump. Steve is also unable to source 5.3 blocks anymore.

I think with a vacuum pump and the hole in the cam tunnel the hp difference has to be damn small. Steve said as a direct comparison the sleeved 5.3 w/o the breaker hole vs ls2 will be 20+ hp at high rpm with

His favorite setup is a dry sleeved ls2.
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Originally Posted by spanks13
The point is he can sell the $3000 ls7 block and buy a $1000 ls2 block if he’s just going to sleeve it.

The sleeved 5.3’s are the absolute strongest, but lose significant power at high rpm due to the lack of bay to bay breathing.
I agree, a LS2 block is a better starting point if you have your heart set on an aluminum block and plan on putting sleeves in it.

But at the 1,000 HP level, I'd seriously consider my other options since this is not a "cheap" build by any means. At that point, I think I'd give up the 110 or so pounds and run an iron block. Like a LSX or Dart.
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