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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 08:25 AM
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Need some advice on LS3 oil pump.. bought a new short block and they are telling me to run a 10355 pump in it... mind you this is in a F Body with 5 qt pan .... isn’t that a bit much pump? I was thinking about staying with a 10295 pump.. heard the 355 could literally suck the pan dry at high rpm

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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 08:51 AM
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Get the Hi pressure Mellings oil pump ......the added volume is not needed.
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Need some advice on LS3 oil pump.. bought a new short block and they are telling me to run a 10355 pump in it... mind you this is in a F Body with 5 qt pan .... isn’t that a bit much pump? I was thinking about staying with a 10295 pump.. heard the 355 could literally suck the pan dry at high rpm
If the vendor that sold you the shortblock says to use a 10355, use the 10355.
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Originally Posted by Patron
Get the Hi pressure Mellings oil pump ......the added volume is not needed.
It is if the bearing clearances are loose and the OP doesn’t want 10psi of oil pressure at idle.
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 11:28 AM
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Its a brand new crate block from GM so I hope the bearing clearance isn't loose..
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 11:30 AM
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If the vendor that sold you the shortblock says to use a 10355, use the 10355.
Same vendor also said that the stock 10bolt will easily hold up to 500+whp...
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 12:43 PM
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Got you KCS about loose tolerances. Just stating what ole Mamo stated once before about the Hi pressure and Hi volume pumps for a street build.
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Got you KCS about loose tolerances. Just stating what ole Mamo stated once before about the Hi pressure and Hi volume pumps for a street build.
Not doubting you Patron, but Tony has changed his ways these days. During my build, he told me a couple of times that a high pressure pump wastes hp. He sold me a std pressure pump, that he ported for more volume.
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Not doubting you Patron, but Tony has changed his ways these days. During my build, he told me a couple of times that a high pressure pump wastes hp. He sold me a std pressure pump, that he ported for more volume.
Tony sold me a ported LSA pump because my ERL block has always had oil pressure issues. ...but I still had to swap out to the 10355.
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If I had to it all over again I'd buy the pump like Tim *87Hatchback along with SAMTech used on there EMC Lsx: Great for Higher RPM without running a dry-sump.
GM LS high performance oil pump Energy Recovery Series Energy Recovery series pumps
http://www.enginebuildermag.com/2014...very-oil-pump/
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Originally Posted by GTO1_OHIO
Tony sold me a ported LSA pump because my ERL block has always had oil pressure issues. ...but I still had to swap out to the 10355.
Bearing clearance issues. Without the issues, Tony would rather sell you a std. pressure pump for max effort build. At least for me he did anyway.
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Originally Posted by Patron
If I had to it all over again I'd buy the pump like Tim *87Hatchback along with SAMTech used on there EMC Lsx: Great for Higher RPM without running a dry-sump.
GM LS high performance oil pump Energy Recovery Series Energy Recovery series pumps
http://www.enginebuildermag.com/2014...very-oil-pump/
Ive never read anything bad about those pumps. The cavitation issues with the LS pumps are supposedly eliminated with these. Prolly worth swapping over, if and when rebuild time rolls around.
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Old Aug 21, 2018 | 12:03 AM
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Yea the oil pump is tricked out, with a unique bypass system using a internal hose to run the bypass oil right back to the pickup tube.
In the photo the pinkish nipple is where the hose connects and runs to the end of the pick up tube:
One aftermarket pump supplier has developed an innovative “energy-recovery” design for some of its Chevy LS oil pumps that reroutes a small amount of the pump’s output back to the inlet tube. Injecting oil back into the inlet tube creates a siphoning effect that helps prime the pump, improves oil flow into the pump, reduces cavitation and allows the pump to maintain a consistent output at higher engine speeds.
They say it was meant to be better for higher rpm usage. I've got an older EMC magazine with the build and photos tried looking for it on the web so you can see how the hose is ran...Tricked out!
Build was a 436 lsx by SAM 775 hp as stated earlier. Tim *86 Hatchback also ran this pump with his 416/454 Ls3.

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No one ever talks about their pumps, but i run a schumanns high volume with their proscreen pickup tube and i have been nothing but pleased. I also have no o-ring on the pickup tube to worry about
https://www.carshopinc.com/product_i...130999/LSPROXV

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I'm running a shumann on mine.... I love it.
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Originally Posted by chevyss2008
Its a brand new crate block from GM so I hope the bearing clearance isn't loose..
You want looser clearances with more high performance applications. When you loosen the clearance, oil pressure will drop, so you need a higher volume pump to get that pressure back. From a customer standpoint, if something went wrong with the engine, I wouldn’t want the warranty voided because I didn’t use the tecommended oil pump.

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Got you KCS about loose tolerances. Just stating what ole Mamo stated once before about the Hi pressure and Hi volume pumps for a street build.
I would think Tony knows better than to make a blanket statement like that. People are driving 1000whp setups on the street and something like that shouldn’t be built with factory bearing clearances. Aluminum blocks are especially bad about pressure drops since they expand so much with heat.
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Old Aug 21, 2018 | 12:57 PM
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I can go find the article it was a stroker he(Tony) built. He said something to the fact that a Hi Volume pump was not needed......
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