What am I missing? Less than 300 rwhp atk_403
09-18-2018, 09:07 PM
#21
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Yeah, a few teeth would most likely cause damage. Got to be exaggerating here. ATK degrees the cam...something fishy about this.
09-19-2018, 08:51 AM
#23
Whoa Whoa Whoa!
I have been following this thread as have our Techs. Yes, we at ATK did do the short block build, installed and degreed the camshaft. We also installed the timing chain/gears. Once you got the engine it appeared there was miscommunication and the engine got the wrong timing set, we installed a 4x and you needed a 1x. After discussions with our tech we overnight'ed you a new timing set in which YOU or YOUR SHOP installed WRONG, NOT ATK. We are glad to see you're up and running and are enjoying your new build, but we need to be clear that ATK did not install it wrong and it was either yourself or your shop doing the work.
ATK.
I have been following this thread as have our Techs. Yes, we at ATK did do the short block build, installed and degreed the camshaft. We also installed the timing chain/gears. Once you got the engine it appeared there was miscommunication and the engine got the wrong timing set, we installed a 4x and you needed a 1x. After discussions with our tech we overnight'ed you a new timing set in which YOU or YOUR SHOP installed WRONG, NOT ATK. We are glad to see you're up and running and are enjoying your new build, but we need to be clear that ATK did not install it wrong and it was either yourself or your shop doing the work.
ATK.
Last edited by ATK Engines; 09-19-2018 at 11:50 AM.
09-19-2018, 11:43 AM
#25
TECH Senior Member
Yup. It's gettin' GOOOOD!
Also, ATK said the wrong timing set was put on. Which reluctor was put on the crank? If ATK put a 58 tooth on it, then yeah, a 4X timing set should have gone on. BUT if a 24 tooth went on then a 1X would be in order. So WHO screwed the pooch there?
Also, ATK said the wrong timing set was put on. Which reluctor was put on the crank? If ATK put a 58 tooth on it, then yeah, a 4X timing set should have gone on. BUT if a 24 tooth went on then a 1X would be in order. So WHO screwed the pooch there?
09-19-2018, 11:54 AM
#26
Yup. It's gettin' GOOOOD!
Also, ATK said the wrong timing set was put on. Which reluctor was put on the crank? If ATK put a 58 tooth on it, then yeah, a 4X timing set should have gone on. BUT if a 24 tooth went on then a 1X would be in order. So WHO screwed the pooch there?
Also, ATK said the wrong timing set was put on. Which reluctor was put on the crank? If ATK put a 58 tooth on it, then yeah, a 4X timing set should have gone on. BUT if a 24 tooth went on then a 1X would be in order. So WHO screwed the pooch there?
09-19-2018, 12:01 PM
#27
TECH Senior Member
Communication gap. Happens to everyone eventually. I hope it all got worked out between everyone!
09-19-2018, 01:55 PM
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It was just an honest communication error, not sure by who. Honestly, I couldn't tell you, but when doing these swaps and talking to customers the conversation gets REALLY confusing allot of the time because its still new to so many people and there is allot to learn. Reading the notes from my sales guy it was an LS2 engine replacing an LS1 so im sure thats where the confusion came in.
09-19-2018, 08:50 PM
#30
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Classy indeed. I knew something fishy was going on here.
09-19-2018, 10:50 PM
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09-20-2018, 06:41 AM
#32
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Hope it does better on the dyno next round, I've seen it happen more times than I thought possible. It doesn't happen often but when it does it can be a pain to diagnose. It's pretty much impossible to have it off a tooth or more and not catch it when you degree the cam.
Im still in disbelief that the OP hit a dyno with this car running so poorly. I would have noticed the second I pulled out of my drive that something was wrong. It’s gonna feel like he’s got 2 engines under the hood this go around.
09-20-2018, 11:50 AM
#33
TECH Senior Member
Yeah, NO WAY that engine would sound ANYWHERE close to right with the cam timing that far off. Had to have sounded like crap...
09-20-2018, 02:29 PM
#35
TECH Senior Member
Oh, RIGHT! The 3/4 race cam…. yeah, THAT's the ticket!
09-20-2018, 04:06 PM
#36
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It was just an honest communication error, not sure by who. Honestly, I couldn't tell you, but when doing these swaps and talking to customers the conversation gets REALLY confusing allot of the time because its still new to so many people and there is allot to learn. Reading the notes from my sales guy it was an LS2 engine replacing an LS1 so im sure thats where the confusion came in.
09-24-2018, 03:46 PM
#37
Teching In
Thread Starter
Whoa Whoa Whoa!
I have been following this thread as have our Techs. Yes, we at ATK did do the short block build, installed and degreed the camshaft. We also installed the timing chain/gears. Once you got the engine it appeared there was miscommunication and the engine got the wrong timing set, we installed a 4x and you needed a 1x. After discussions with our tech we overnight'ed you a new timing set in which YOU or YOUR SHOP installed WRONG, NOT ATK. We are glad to see you're up and running and are enjoying your new build, but we need to be clear that ATK did not install it wrong and it was either yourself or your shop doing the work.
ATK.
I have been following this thread as have our Techs. Yes, we at ATK did do the short block build, installed and degreed the camshaft. We also installed the timing chain/gears. Once you got the engine it appeared there was miscommunication and the engine got the wrong timing set, we installed a 4x and you needed a 1x. After discussions with our tech we overnight'ed you a new timing set in which YOU or YOUR SHOP installed WRONG, NOT ATK. We are glad to see you're up and running and are enjoying your new build, but we need to be clear that ATK did not install it wrong and it was either yourself or your shop doing the work.
ATK.
09-24-2018, 03:56 PM
#38
TECH Regular
Bump I need to hear the rest of this story before I make a decision on ordering a shortblock the price diff. Is about 460$ if Atk will settle this I'm looking at ordering from them
09-24-2018, 05:39 PM
#39
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What is there to settle? ATK sent him the correct timing set, after he initially ordered the wrong one on the shortblock, and he installed it wrong. He tore it back down, found and fixed the issue, and car runs correctly. As for the he said/she said phone stuff, who knows?
