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Old 06-09-2019, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion
That helps a lot.

Going to a 4.125" bore does the same thing.
To fit offset dowel pins to eliminate shrouding how far would you need to move the heads?
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The .030" offset provides the same distance from the cylinder wall as a 4.125" bore... .030" which helps a lot.

4.125" is .060" larger than the 4.065" bore... half of that is .030" (radius) in case you're wondering how I came up with that (and assuming the head remains centered).

The 4.185" bore I'm aiming for provides .060" of valve to wall clearance above an LS3 bore.

The difference between a 4.03" and 4.065" bore is .0175" so you can see how that helps. Nearly doubling it would help even more.

I don't know how that affects the manifold and such with clearance. But .030" isn't a lot.
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Originally Posted by bortous
To fit offset dowel pins to eliminate shrouding how far would you need to move the heads?
Che70velle mentioned .030 in reference to BBC's, so I would imagine about .025 might be close. I really don't know myself.
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I will ask my builder about this too and see what he says.
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Originally Posted by bortous
I will ask my builder about this too and see what he says.
The 37900 Moroso dowels move the head .030”
Again, they are designed for big block Chevy, but fit LS applications exact. If shrouding is an issue, this is an easy fix. Moves the exhaust valve over toward the wall like an ls7 head also, but exhaust shrouding isn’t an issue since piston is forcing pressure outward. I’ve used these and it works well. No issues with manifold alignment upstairs either. There is more than .030” play in the manifold bolt sleeves. Run it by your builder.
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Originally Posted by Che70velle
The 37900 Moroso dowels move the head .030”
Again, they are designed for big block Chevy, but fit LS applications exact. If shrouding is an issue, this is an easy fix. Moves the exhaust valve over toward the wall like an ls7 head also, but exhaust shrouding isn’t an issue since piston is forcing pressure outward. I’ve used these and it works well. No issues with manifold alignment upstairs either. There is more than .030” play in the manifold bolt sleeves. Run it by your builder.
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make sure to check radial clearance on your pistons valve pockets with modeling clay, while checking ptv, if your running pockets. I cut my own pockets, so I had no problems.
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Originally Posted by Che70velle
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make sure to check radial clearance on your pistons valve pockets with modeling clay, while checking ptv, if your running pockets. I cut my own pockets, so I had no problems.
I may screen shot this and send to my machine shop. May do this next go around even though I have a 4.125 bore
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Follow up

Decided to go 408 LS2 after getting a decent deal on a slightly used unblemished 4 inch Callies CompStar Crank. The build is still a long ways off but the crank is on the way.
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Originally Posted by 99 Black Bird T/A
Follow up

Decided to go 408 LS2 after getting a decent deal on a slightly used unblemished 4 inch Callies CompStar Crank. The build is still a long ways off but the crank is on the way.
What heads you plan on using?
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Originally Posted by 99 Black Bird T/A
Follow up

Decided to go 408 LS2 after getting a decent deal on a slightly used unblemished 4 inch Callies CompStar Crank. The build is still a long ways off but the crank is on the way.
Welcome to the LS 408 club
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Originally Posted by Tuskyz28
What heads you plan on using?
They better be LS3 heads or else
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Originally Posted by bortous
They better be LS3 heads or else
To go with the MMS Ported FAST 102 Cathedral Manifold the OP is
Anxious to use. LOL
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Originally Posted by NAVYBLUE210
To go with the MMS Ported FAST 102 Cathedral Manifold the OP is
Anxious to use. LOL
What does Tony get to port a customer supplied manifold, ballpark?
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Tusky, The set of reworked GMPP 243's I used for flow testing the various intake manifolds. They have a new revised midlift valve job, new intake and exhaust valves. 250cc runners, 2.04 intake valve, etc BTR platinum springs. Peak intake ~ 303cfm ~239 exhaust. We hit ~335cfm testing high lift vj but it's a daily not a racer so I picked the mid lift for thr fatter mid range.

I can't find the exhaust flow numbers this morning.. Lol..Mamo ported 102 LSXR intake manifold. Not perfect heads but budget friendly since I have them.


SF1020, 4 inch bore, @28"

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Originally Posted by 99 Black Bird T/A
Tusky, The set of reworked GMPP 243's I used for flow testing the various intake manifolds. They have a new revised midlift valve job, new intake and exhaust valves. 250cc runners, 2.04 intake valve, etc BTR platinum springs. Peak intake ~ 303cfm ~239 exhaust. I can find my flow numbers thus morning.. Lol..Mamo ported 102 LSXR intake manifold. Not perfect heads but budget friendly since I have them.
I think you going with a great head thats go make more power than you expect. Any camshafts in mind ?
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Originally Posted by bortous
They better be LS3 heads or else
Brotus, You go will surprised to see your 40X ci motor dont make much more power than my LS3 headed stock bottom end LS2 setup with the BTR 229/244 cam. I say this cause MOST 40X CI LS3 headed motors fail on the dyno and at the track as well.... but thats none my business.

Agiain Wade, you made great choice brother.
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Originally Posted by Tuskyz28
Brotus, You go will surprised to see your 40X ci motor dont make much more power than my LS3 headed stock bottom end LS2 setup with the BTR 229/244 cam. I say this cause MOST 40X CI LS3 headed motors fail on the dyno and at the track as well.... but thats none my business.

Agiain Wade, you made great choice brother.
Lol.
If it doesn't I will get you to rebuild my engine to your specs.
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Originally Posted by bortous
Lol.
If it doesn't I will get you to rebuild my engine to your specs.
No problem
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Originally Posted by Tuskyz28
No problem
Good. Make sure you use high end internals though and I want a billet crank as a free upgrade for the privilege of me letting you work on it.
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For street duty especially, this combo will work very well..



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