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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 05:18 AM
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I will try to make my long story short, did a DOD delete, texas speed cam, lifters, push rods, oil pump etc... upon start up of delete, I only had bank 1 run, bank 2 was power but no ground, after a lot of codes( P0172, P0174, P0 352, P0354, P0 356, P0358) I found bad ground to coil packs bank 2, somehow all the gas that went down the cylinders must have washed the oil off the bearings, I drained the gas/oil and put fresh in, ran that 10 minutes and drained to see if I had metal shavings, see pics, what do you think, lots of trash...



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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 09:02 AM
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Did you cut the filter open for inspection?
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Old Oct 11, 2019 | 09:06 AM
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Did you cut the filter open for inspection?
no, but I only have oil pressure when I keep my foot on the pedal, so I figure it is a spun bearing...
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Old Oct 14, 2019 | 10:16 AM
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You mean to say you're at 0 psi of pressure at idle? even on cold start?
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Old Oct 14, 2019 | 10:19 AM
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You mean to say you're at 0 psi of pressure at idle? even on cold start?
on a manual gauge, it is 30 at start then bleeds off when the loop closes and goes to zero, there is no pressure after the initial start...
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Originally Posted by 07silveradolt
on a manual gauge, it is 30 at start then bleeds off when the loop closes and goes to zero, there is no pressure after the initial start...
Just thinking out loud here:

1) To truly be at 0 psi once you warm up, would take an absolute shredding of your bearings - like, no pressure (resistance to flow) at all.
2) if 1 was true, I would expect MORE metal in your oil pan - your pictures to me don't do this theory much justice
3) Does it drop to 0 psi the moment you hit closed loop? Something tells me you have an issue with grounds or some other electrical gremlins

But something loosely related: Those areas where it looks like you have metal on your pan - the bottom of my pan looks the same way - bunch of little permanent bumps etc, not actual metal.
Are yours actual metal you can pick up by hand/wash off? If so, then yeah, that's a lot of mess...
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Old Oct 14, 2019 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by AndyTA
Just thinking out loud here:

1) To truly be at 0 psi once you warm up, would take an absolute shredding of your bearings - like, no pressure (resistance to flow) at all.
2) if 1 was true, I would expect MORE metal in your oil pan - your pictures to me don't do this theory much justice
3) Does it drop to 0 psi the moment you hit closed loop? Something tells me you have an issue with grounds or some other electrical gremlins

But something loosely related: Those areas where it looks like you have metal on your pan - the bottom of my pan looks the same way - bunch of little permanent bumps etc, not actual metal.
Are yours actual metal you can pick up by hand/wash off? If so, then yeah, that's a lot of mess...

yeah, so over the weekend, I did get a chance to check things out, and you are correct, the bumps in the pan are the casting crap, looks like metal at 1st, filter was clean, but only had about 10 minutes run time on it. and at cold start right at 30 psi for about 230 or 30 seconds then drops to zero, if I keep my foot on the pedal I can keep pressure, which made m e thing spun bearing especially after having gas in the oil.
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so ,at this point I am leaning towards the oil pump's bypass valve or something is wrong with the o-ring... not sure what else it would be?
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Pinched o-ring on re-install will show that. Get a new one and reinstall. Make sure you put oil on it to lube it up. And with the pan off, it should be easy to line it up. Push it straight on and don't let the bolt on one side pull it tight. Seat it first.
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Originally Posted by 07silveradolt
so ,at this point I am leaning towards the oil pump's bypass valve or something is wrong with the o-ring... not sure what else it would be?
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Pinched o-ring on re-install will show that. Get a new one and reinstall. Make sure you put oil on it to lube it up. And with the pan off, it should be easy to line it up. Push it straight on and don't let the bolt on one side pull it tight. Seat it first.
Yeah exactly - 10 minutes of run time just can't be enough to eat your bearings to the point where you have no pressure, especially since there just isn't enough evidence to support that your bearings are all ate up, no way.
Also, gas mixed with oil wouldn't necessarily eat all the oil on the bearings either.

So yes, I agree.
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Old Oct 14, 2019 | 04:39 PM
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Yup pinched o ring!
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Old Oct 14, 2019 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 07silveradolt
Yup pinched o ring!
BADDABING!! Well, at least you know what job lies ahead..... good luck to you, hope it resolves the issue!
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Old Oct 14, 2019 | 04:55 PM
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Thanks for everyone's help!
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Glad it was something simple!

Those o-rings can be a pain. Just like I said, lube it up and press it on with even pressure. It will all of the sudden give, and it'll be seated correctly.

Improved Racing also sells a kit that allows you to use a second bolt on the other side to make sure you apply even pressure when torqueing down as well.
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Old Oct 16, 2019 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion
Glad it was something simple!

Those o-rings can be a pain. Just like I said, lube it up and press it on with even pressure. It will all of the sudden give, and it'll be seated correctly.

Improved Racing also sells a kit that allows you to use a second bolt on the other side to make sure you apply even pressure when torqueing down as well.

I ordered one of the two bolt girdles from ICT billet when I ordered my pan gasket and new o-ring!
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