Spending all this money just to get outrun by a $90 4.8l with a $399 cast wheel 7875 lol .

I've done the 600+ wheel NA LS .

My $2500 turbo 4.8l build trapped 10 more mph in the 1/8th lol

 

Not Jealous... you dont know me or my life.

 

Oh sorry I meant Patron hahahaha

 

That is one expensive build man.
Looks real good though.
However, why is that intake so expensive?
Here are the specs as requested:

LS2 408 Shortblock
CNC LS3 heads, 60cc chambers stainless steel valves on intake and exhaust. Upgraded 10mm threads.
PAC 1209X springs shimmed within 0.50 coil bind.
LLSR 250/258 .660 .660 114LSA +4
3/8 .135 wall pushrods
Yella terra pro street 1:8.1 ratio roller rockers
FAST 102mm intake mid length runners
3600-3800 stall converter
1 7/8 headers with ceramic coating and 100CPSI cats with 4.5 inch bodies.
Dual 3 inch X pipe exhaust
NW 102mm DBW throttle body
Mezeire Electric water pump 55GPM
Improved racing oil cooler kit with thermostat
PWR Power steering cooler kit

I think that's everything.

 

Horses for courses. Done both. Enjoy N/A better even if it is slower.

 

They are definitely not

 

My LME LS7 made 709hp on the engine dyno. A nastier cam, more RPM and a better intake I'm sure would have netted a few more.

 

There should be running threads on pump gas/E85/race gas builds. They are all different and have different purposes/limits. Obviously, the big difference is the compression you can get away with and the more compression you have, the more cam you can get away with. It's a compounding factor. Basically the builds end up as street builds(pump), weekend/grudge cars(E), no limit(full race-trailer or street toy). Right now, everything is crammed together and there is a lot E builds that look great on pump, but not on E, etc. For me, I am trying to build the baddest pump gas daily I can get away with, but nobody cares since I am not going for title numbers on E at 8500rpm.

 

Thanks Jake, I've seen this intake in person at LS fest more than once in Bowling Green. This past year i seen in on a white twin turbo chevy nova there. The car was at the Holley tint. I caught up with the owner of the car and he was explaining to me that if he was go build it again that he wouldn't have went this route because it was a NIGHTMARE trying to dial in two separate throttle bodies the same exact way.

I also seen those Frankenstein intakes out there that costs 7500 dollars. Op, nice build and good luck to you.

 

Smokey knows more about these 800 hp builds than me and he a cylinder head freak. I never talked to a guy that talks about cylinder heads so much. He studies ford motors too. Guy just loves hot rodding period.
Smokey tends to like solid roller builds and i dont.
He also like automatics and i dont.
He visits yellowbullet quite often and i dont.

He also like big boobie women vs me where i like big booty women.


We are not the same person... maybe you just want us to be so you can be happy in life. I dont know what your problem is. Smokey and me dont always see eye to eye on builds but we have a mutual respect for one another . We have bumped heads on here before over builds but its cool. Just because i agreed with him for ONCE doesn't mean we are the same person.

 

There's a simple formula used on YB?
1st what's the RPM peak...we can correctly size the heads ..not some BS ls1 sales it has 275 cc. Then we take runner length. We then can cam it.

Tuskey need to argue with a person who knows it all yet doesn't know ****, buts what's been told or said here. Reasoning in why I've asked, paid & researched this stuff. You can get past big budgets with basic common knowledge. And it seems to be lacking with a few here. Dumbest thing is ive said 800 is the new in thing. I Know Cdubbzz and many other builds with the same HP with some having less Cubic inches without some crazy rpm. Some guys get Stuck on a builder or name. F that I can spec the S#!+ myself. How and Y can I be so sure of what's said? Too many have done the same thing asked for and I know guys who've did it with less. No need for the BS. I've already asked what the whole damn thread is about with a 408.

 

I ask to the guy:
Who do i hang with and ask all these questions to?
got a dude named Zach / my builder who won the EMC with his own shop. Also a instructor. The winner of this year's EMC? Andrew, who's also a instructor. You may ask instructor of what and where @ ? SamTech idiots. Know the x2 REC winner also he's shown me a thing or a million. List goes on and on....FED,GG,HKE-HPR,BES,Proline,etc....none of you guys on here can say you've reached out to as many or better. Read the bottom line SamTech education for free. I buy and build my own parts if needed....You can't name one person who's done what I've done in building a ls7 head for a small bore cheaper than what's sold. That's not a porter doing something for themselves. Know a guy who did the very same thing and told me all about it. Not some get on a forum and ask someone who don't know.... I can get any answer about any engine from 4 or 5 guys listed within 24 hrs. Darin Morgan & Zach Nelson are speed text. Don't forget some of the Greats on YB...the Natural Aspirated section Moderator
Chris U. is a cool cat, as well as Scott Foxwell. NHRA engine builder also in Nick Ferri. I will people & ask a ? It's Free!

Don't hate the preacher and the sermon. Get your thinking right! Others have done it and as u see doing it. You should get mad with the limited thinking of those around you... reason I don't ask anyone here anything. What & who do these guys really no .........



Rup let's get at it, now that everyone has gotten out what they need or want to say

 

All of which means what exactly? Your budget built turbo drag car is better bcuz its simply faster than something that isnt a drag car? Pretty vague statement there. I guess if i was offended, i could pull money out one of my sock drawers n buy one done already $.25 to the dollar n get to grudge racing. I follow Sloppy Mechanics too bro. Nothn special bout some of those builds. Different strokes for different folks. I get it what your saying, its just not an apples to apples comparison. I was going turbo on this build originally. I simply did NOT like the compromises i was facing or the direction my particular build was heading.
Im not sure if your referring to me or not. If you are, than i ll say this. Thank You. I do respect your opinion. I just dont deserved to be called retarded. You dont know my life or financial situation enough to make that claim. Period. I can respect your opinions minus the personal attacks. Im quite sure there are things in your life thatd make absolutely no sense to me, but i doubt id call you retarded for them!

Im using the Holley Dominator on my build. It has features built in to control dual dbw set ups. Including a plug n play harness. I dont know that id take 1 mans word for it as gospel. Look how many people have had problems dialing in NW102mm tb s. Yet they on just about every build still. I spoke in depth with my builder about this intake prior to buying it. Personally, i luv the looks and how unique it is. It fits the caliber of my build and the look im going for. He s saying it happens to work well too n makes good tq. Old saying goes, smoke em if you got em. Dont worry bout the cost. My pockets arent empty. Its not really that astronomical compared to alot of stuff currently out there. I get its not for everyone. I wanted something different. I dont know the true performance capabilities on it yet as theres not a whole lot of info available. Maybe theories or other history on crossrams...i dunno, but i will let you guys know how it performs, drives, etc...

p.s. This intake was free to me already. Literally. If anyone wants to know how thats possible, just ask. Otherwise, i wont bore you anymore on it.

 

Maybe i shouldn't had said retarded and im man enough to apologize to you about that.

Im just a big overthinker. I always think you should get what you pay for in life. If i paid that much for a intake i would expect the car to tune itself 😂.

Again good luck to you and your project. Im also a N/A guy as well but i got criticized here about that in Bortues thread.

 

I like big ***** and a medium size booty.

 

Main thing is the runner length and seeing if we can get the correct amount of tapper. Each runner needs a certain amount of area for a given head requirement. We are simply trying to fill a cylinder. More air and fuel makes a bigger bang? I'll look and compare the runner of your intake vs that of the high ram in diameter @ the entry and head side. We know the Holley can supply the air. From there length. If it can supply the required amount $. As the longer runner will make tq throughout the rpm band. Then take in that if you want to get: Archimedes, we'd look at TB sizing for each plenum side. Just a thought.

 

Rup this is common stuff I like to spec. Better said i use to like to spec. It was fun when I had more ?s.
i have none to date....I've used up all my cylinder head ideas. Just need 1 more cylinder head Lol. But true.

 

SBE LS7 checking in. Current build is LME Brodix BR7's, 25x/26x hydraulic cam, and E. Mid-high 6's wheel.

Also OP, that $2500 junkyard build is taking your money home wether you like it or not. I bought an '02 TA to do something similar in the future. There is a point where you get tired of spending money on an NA car when your heads cost what they're car and whole build costs sometimes.

 

thats sick man!! I love me a nice looking nova like that too! Awesome build